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post #21 of 31 (permalink) Old 01-04-2019, 05:05 PM
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I respect your stance on it, but we're obviously on opposite sides. I am talking about being able to enjoy tunes w/the top down. If top down = no bass anymore, barely hear my music, distortion, etc then I will be miserable w/the car..


Also, all the comments about listen to the exhaust, no music really don't help.
I have the Bose in my Abarth, and I am pretty impressed with it considering the type of car that it is.

Over the summer,, I did a lot of driving on interstate highways here in the Northeast. Top down, radio cranked up, left lane, 80 to 90 mph. The Bose sounded great to me.

For example, with the volume way up, the hard hitting punchy bass and drums in the song "Sail" by AWOLNATION sounds clean and distortion free, while it also feels like someone is hitting the car with a big hammer.

To be honest, I am not much of an audiophile. I am 56 years old, and my hearing isn't as good as it was 30 years ago. But it sounds good to me.
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I’d also say the Bose system sounds great.

But, if you are comparing stock to the upgraded/Bose system, then I think the only way to determine for you is to listen to both. You will always find someone who says both are great and both are crap. Its subjective.
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As far as the headrest speakers are concerned, as much as I wanted them to have an impact, they really aren't much good for anything other than the phone. I don't like the traditional front biased sound stage, preferring to be in the middle of the stage as opposed to in front of it (a la rock conecert). I was hoping the headrest speakers would be ok, but they really only serve to help with the phone.

That said the Bose system still sounds acceptable without the headrest speakers sounding awesome!

You mentioned bass a few times as a desired listening feature , I think the footwell sub performs well for what it is. I find that if you want to listen to a heavy base hit, set the bass eq at +4 for the Bose system.
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It was to me, as I wanted the NAV and they came packaged together. As to costs...they were free. I got my Abarth with lighting, Nav, Brembo, recaro and convenience package all for about 1K over an Abarths base price...so I canít complain. I got what I wanted in the correct color pretty much fully loaded (did not want a black stripe on a black car). I had to drive 2+ hours to get it, but that only cost me 65$ for a one way rental with enterprise. I also think it too less time including the drive there and back as I had worked out the final price before leaving to get the car. All in all very happy. JP
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The upgraded Bose system and the Recaro seats were the only options that I was concerned about getting when I was looking for my Abarth. I'm not an audiophile but I enjoy my music and didn't want to worry about that being a problem with the top down and to be honest, it hasn't been. I've been happy with it without any complaints. The output from the headrest speakers isn't huge but I don't think it should be. They're next to your ears, if the output was really big there would be no point of having front speakers because the sound would be dominated from them. They're definitely used for music as well, if you adjust the fader back they are more noticeable but I think the speaker balance front to back is pretty good. Again, I'm not aware of many convertibles that you are more exposed than this car and the Miata. It's not the place for a truly high end system. That being said, with the top down and windows up at 80mph on the highway, it has no problem drowning out the wind noise and a passenger that's trying to talk to me when I'd rather just enjoy the drive....lol

Make it easy on yourself. Go test drive an Abarth or Lusso that has the Bose, put the top down and test it. YOU know what you're looking for, we don't.

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I watched a takedown before, I can't recall if it was the Miata or Spider, but it seems that they went to great lengths to keep the weight down in the vehicle, and that means no sound deadening on panels that you would usually expect on most cars. Like when they pulled the carpet in the trunk it didn't have a bunch of those tar sheets that you'd usually see slapped all over the place.

The Spider is also likely to have more wind noise than the RF Miata version that you might also want to take a look at.

I haven't compared them, but some of the reviewers online were saying they found the upgraded audio system to not be all that great, but I'd just add that if you're going to be investing in upgrades to consider that if you're also throwing a subwoofer in there that you may end up fighting buzzing.

So for an audiophile that loves bass, you may even forget convertibles in general and go for a heavier coupe that has craptons of sound deadening slapped all over the place like the Mustang Ecoboost Premium that gets an upgrade interior that even includes active noise cancelling tech (from Sony I think).
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I watched a takedown before, I can't recall if it was the Miata or Spider, but it seems that they went to great lengths to keep the weight down in the vehicle, and that means no sound deadening on panels that you would usually expect on most cars. Like when they pulled the carpet in the trunk it didn't have a bunch of those tar sheets that you'd usually see slapped all over the place.

The Spider is also likely to have more wind noise than the RF Miata version that you might also want to take a look at.

I haven't compared them, but some of the reviewers online were saying they found the upgraded audio system to not be all that great, but I'd just add that if you're going to be investing in upgrades to consider that if you're also throwing a subwoofer in there that you may end up fighting buzzing.

So for an audiophile that loves bass, you may even forget convertibles in general and go for a heavier coupe that has craptons of sound deadening slapped all over the place like the Mustang Ecoboost Premium that gets an upgrade interior that even includes active noise cancelling tech (from Sony I think).


I must agree with you Jessica. these are great little cars, they are true sports cars. some people have unrealistic expectations for what they are going to get. they want v-8 power, with Porsche handling, sound studio audio quality, with the cargo capacity of a f-350. these and the miatas are probably the least expensive true sports cars on the market, be happy, have fun, but be realistic....

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For those that have the Bose, an easy way to experience the difference in EQ between top up and down is to (while the top is down) reach into the cavity in the header where the top's latches into and push inside with your finger. There is a micro-switch inside that changes the audio settings and you can hear the headrest speakers doing their thing. These do more than just make phone calls clearer...
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These do more than just make phone calls clearer...
When I said that the headrest speakers were only good for phone calls, it wasn't because they didn't transmit sound.

The speakers in the headrest sound horrible!
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