Originally Posted by doverosx
No disputes that I know about, maybe some people that donít like the results lol. The thread is on the brokenfiatclub.
As for waiting for perfect conditions...well, those will never happen. There is a wind tunnel with environmental controls and full CANBUS data logging that is $30,000/hour. I get the strangest feeling that with eeeeeevvvveeeennnn that, people will move the goal post even further.
That is particularly why I took a step back and saw that weíre in a situation where leak numbers donít differentiate what I was feeling. The devil is in the details and just like in the audio world, you should buy what sounds good to the things glued to the sides of your head. Try it and buy it, that seemed to be the least partial conclusion I could come to.
If you don't mind, would you shoot me the link in PM?
My understanding is that the stuffed turbo there is similar to the one Tork also had available. It's a ported 1446 with a 1752 wheel in it or something? I don't know the exact details, but John told me specifically, he didn't have too much luck making a lot of power on that turbo and that the aFe seemed to be better. No testing to back this claim, but that is what I've heard. Also EC's dyno results don't look that amazing for the Stage 3. Upgrading the turbo doesn't get much more power considering how much money the turbo upgrade is. It's ~20whp difference and the spool is definitely slower by several 100 RPMs according to their charts.
I see a 24.5 BHP gain over Phase 2 when going to a stuffed turbo, to me, that's not enough power to justify spending $1,600 for the turbo. That's the main reason why I'm not talking about that turbo in this thread, because it doesn't really seem to be that great IMO. There need to be better options available, and that turbo is a lot more expensive than the aFe turbo, and generates probably 20 or less whp over stock turbo.
Regarding Eddie hating EC, he has personal issues with them from what I've heard. Basically bad customer experience with the company, plus he said things about them on a forum they own, so he wasn't happen when he was silenced by the company. That's mainly why he has a chip on his shoulder, I would listen with a grain of salt, research, and make your own decision.