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post #1 of 80 (permalink) Old 03-21-2019, 02:47 PM Thread Starter
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Information on the AFE Turbo

It is not a stuff turbo.

I have no idea what turbo it is

but I got some information from Tork to share.

Specifications:
Compressor Inducer - 34mm
Compressor Exducer - 46mm / Trim 55
Turbine Inducer - 39mm
Turbine Exducer - 34mm

Billet Wheel:
The compressor features a blue anodized 6/12 bladed billet aluminum wheel that is lighter and stronger than the stock cast wheel to help provide quicker "spool-up" and higher air flow than the stock turbo.
Stock upgrade with no core charge
A direct bolt-on replacement
Billet adjustable wastgate actuator included
Additional fueling is not required

I also asked them about the tork stuffed turbo.
Apparently I was waiting and there is no more because their supplier
for the turbocharger stopped.

So they are tunning with the new AFE turbo now

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Thanks! It does seem like a decent deal, since it comes with that better wastegate. Hopefully Tork will release results soon. I am close to selling my 124 and spending all the money on my ND2...
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Why do you plan on doing that?

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I only have one garage space and I don't want to build two separate cars. I want to concentrate my money on one or the other. The EC big turbo results are a fucking joke and Tork promised their big turbo results back in December and we still don't have those either. I bought my 124 on the basis of its potential, not what it was stock. I need more power!
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Why do you think that is? Is it that hard to make a good tune for a big turbo for our spiders?

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I only have one garage space and I don't want to build two separate cars. I want to concentrate my money on one or the other. The EC big turbo results are a fucking joke and Tork promised their big turbo results back in December and we still don't have those either. I bought my 124 on the basis of its potential, not what it was stock. I need more power!
I asked the same thing

Tork is dynoing the new tune for the turbo next week hopefully there are some details next week

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I wonder how much effective price-wise will be to swap the Alfa 2.0L?
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I had another thread about this and discussed with my personal tuner.

Basically, we don't think there is a huge difference between this and stock. It has a lighter billet wheel, but otherwise looks to basically be a stock turbo. I'd imagine a slightly quicker spool, and I bet it holds power slightly better in the top end than stock, but I can't imagine any huge gains from it.

It may be a decent placeholder until real stuffed turbos come out, but I can't see getting much more than <10whp and a couple hundred RPM on the spool from this. That said, if you want to justify the cost, the turbo is just over $1000, and you wouldn't have to buy an upgraded wastegate for what, $330? So the turbo is really like $700 roughly.

In short, it's probably a better upgrade than doing an intake, coil packs, and plugs, but no major gains are likely yet.

That said, if John can prove they make real power on this, or maybe this turbo makes tuning the top end smoother and safer, I'd consider grabbing this while better stuffed turbos are developed. I'm sure a billet wheel with E85 would really help improve spool, which could be a ton of fun!
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I had another thread about this and discussed with my personal tuner.

Basically, we don't think there is a huge difference between this and stock. It has a lighter billet wheel, but otherwise looks to basically be a stock turbo. I'd imagine a slightly quicker spool, and I bet it holds power slightly better in the top end than stock, but I can't imagine any huge gains from it.

It may be a decent placeholder until real stuffed turbos come out, but I can't see getting much more than <10whp and a couple hundred RPM on the spool from this. That said, if you want to justify the cost, the turbo is just over $1000, and you wouldn't have to buy an upgraded wastegate for what, $330? So the turbo is really like $700 roughly.

In short, it's probably a better upgrade than doing an intake, coil packs, and plugs, but no major gains are likely yet.

That said, if John can prove they make real power on this, or maybe this turbo makes tuning the top end smoother and safer, I'd consider grabbing this while better stuffed turbos are developed. I'm sure a billet wheel with E85 would really help improve spool, which could be a ton of fun!
If you compare this to a stock turbo the data is very very different.

I saw your thread, but its not a stuffed GT1446, and this is more close to a 1752. And according to Tork was better than their own stuffed turbo

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If you compare this to a stock turbo the data is very very different.

I saw your thread, but its not a stuffed GT1446, and this is more close to a 1752. And according to Tork was better than their own stuffed turbo
Really?

I thought the specs were dead on the same as the 1446. What is better/bigger here? I don't doubt that it's better than the stuffed turbo, I just thought these were stock size wheels in it.


Edit, it's almost impossible to find specs on the 1446, but it looks like the compressor wheel trim is different, so the diameter of the wheel is not exactly the same. So things are slightly different. How differen't I'm not entirely sure.

Specs that I found online for the stock turbo are 34mm Compressor wheel Inducer (42 trim compressor wheel) and 33 Turbine Wheel Inducer. Other than that I can't find other specs. I can try to do the math to find out what the exducer specs would be from that.

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