I don't know what they mean for "same part", but fiat part code is different.
600061564 is the EU Abarth
6000621210 is the Fiat for US and CAN
6000621211 is the Fiat for the rest of the world
Abarth emblem on steering wheel
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600061564 is the EU Abarth
6000621210 is the Fiat for US and CAN
6000621211 is the Fiat for the rest of the world
That part number come from thye Fiat spare part catalogue, you can find it here
http://langer-et.no-ip.org:7080/navi?FORCED=TRUE
upper right you see "lingua", if you go over it a menu will pop up and you can chose your language, sometime you will be disconnected, this is an unofficial installation keep this in mind
you can even input your VIN and get all information on your car and it will display ONLY the part used on your car
http://langer-et.no-ip.org:7080/navi?FORCED=TRUE
upper right you see "lingua", if you go over it a menu will pop up and you can chose your language, sometime you will be disconnected, this is an unofficial installation keep this in mind
you can even input your VIN and get all information on your car and it will display ONLY the part used on your car
I'd also like to call Bollox. Does he have more than one?
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Since they have different part numbers, it's absolutely an issue of Fiat not being able to offer the Abarth wheel without dual certification.
For them to be able to sell the Abarth airbag assembly over here, they would have to go through the process of obtaining PSW (parts submission warrant) approval to ship it here. That would involve PVTR (product validation test report) and several other tests ($$$). Fiat apparently assume that the Abarth will sell in low enough volumes over here that the ROI isn't worth the investment, OR they would rather promote Fiat over the Abarth brand (for reasons unknown). Other markets (AUS) are only getting the Abarth, so there's no double-investment to avoid. They PPAP'd the single part for the Abarth, and called it a day. For the FED/US market, they only PPAP'd the Fiat-branded airbag assembly. I don't foresee this changing unless Abarth sales remain strong into the next model year. FCA are very cautious to invest in US-market niche cars after the failures of several previous FCA sports cars (and the lackluster sales of the rest of the Fiat brand, quite frankly).
They only way US owners are going to obtain the Abarth logo is if FCA decides to list the badge as a separately serviceable part number (for example, if UK owners start scratching theirs and want to replace just the emblem w/o full airbag replacement). At that point, it would be feasible for US owners to obtain the logo because it's not HAZMAT, and could easily be shipped across the pond for use in a FED market. Expect to still pay something crazy like $100. For reference, the european-only Crossfire SRT-6 badge (slanted font) was eventually made available through US dealers, but it was $150 (supply/demand).
Even something as simple as an emblem needs PSW approval for clearance through US Customs, but an emblem requires far less testing and certification than an airbag with a built-in explosive device.
Source -- I work in the automotive industry, in international sales & logistics
For them to be able to sell the Abarth airbag assembly over here, they would have to go through the process of obtaining PSW (parts submission warrant) approval to ship it here. That would involve PVTR (product validation test report) and several other tests ($$$). Fiat apparently assume that the Abarth will sell in low enough volumes over here that the ROI isn't worth the investment, OR they would rather promote Fiat over the Abarth brand (for reasons unknown). Other markets (AUS) are only getting the Abarth, so there's no double-investment to avoid. They PPAP'd the single part for the Abarth, and called it a day. For the FED/US market, they only PPAP'd the Fiat-branded airbag assembly. I don't foresee this changing unless Abarth sales remain strong into the next model year. FCA are very cautious to invest in US-market niche cars after the failures of several previous FCA sports cars (and the lackluster sales of the rest of the Fiat brand, quite frankly).
They only way US owners are going to obtain the Abarth logo is if FCA decides to list the badge as a separately serviceable part number (for example, if UK owners start scratching theirs and want to replace just the emblem w/o full airbag replacement). At that point, it would be feasible for US owners to obtain the logo because it's not HAZMAT, and could easily be shipped across the pond for use in a FED market. Expect to still pay something crazy like $100. For reference, the european-only Crossfire SRT-6 badge (slanted font) was eventually made available through US dealers, but it was $150 (supply/demand).
Even something as simple as an emblem needs PSW approval for clearance through US Customs, but an emblem requires far less testing and certification than an airbag with a built-in explosive device.
Source -- I work in the automotive industry, in international sales & logistics
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Thanks ForzaFiata...the SRT emblem was it removed by the dealer and the new emblem installed ....or did they change the whole airbag cover ? just trying to evaluate if we will see such an option for our cars anytime soon.....
How easy is it to remove the emblem off the cover ? anyone experienced something like this ?
I have searched for a similar emblem...but no luck so far. The few sources that I was able to find are in Italy and will not ship to NA.
How easy is it to remove the emblem off the cover ? anyone experienced something like this ?
I have searched for a similar emblem...but no luck so far. The few sources that I was able to find are in Italy and will not ship to NA.
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ForzaFiata:
Outstanding explanation of the missing Abarth steering wheel badge here in the U.S.
Thanks for taking the time to inform us of the back story.
Outstanding explanation of the missing Abarth steering wheel badge here in the U.S.
Thanks for taking the time to inform us of the back story.
Abarth emblem on steering wheel.
I ordered this part from Ebay. Will post when it arrives. However, my credit card (MasterCard) refused to place the order, and I had to use another card. Their reason was that the vendor was in China and they have experienced too many fraud claims they do no allow China purchases on their card. My order was placed on 11/17/16 using a USAA MasterCard. Have not had any alerts from them. Yet.
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That's the million-dollar question. If it is held on with adhesive, then the swap should be VERY straightforward (heat, peel, replace). Usually, the steering wheel emblems are held in place with clips, which are molded into the cover before the unit is assembled as a complete airbag assembly. The reasoning behind that is so the emblem doesn't become a projectile upon ignition -- if that airbag has to pop, it's best that any plastic/metal pieces stay attached to the cover as it flops out of the way.
The SRT emblem I referenced earlier was an exterior badge... and the price was the cost for the emblem by itself, installation was up to you.
LongBeachJim -- no problem sir! Glad I could help.
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anyone found a solution ....I found a supplier in Italy that would make the emblem adhesive for the 53mm diam. but refuses to sell to NA.
see lync
http://www.ebay.it/itm/2-ADESIVO-3D...id=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&mehot=pp&sd=271524719413
anyone found a solution ....I found a supplier in Italy that would make the emblem adhesive for the 53mm diam. but refuses to sell to NA.
see lync
http://www.ebay.it/itm/2-ADESIVO-3D...id=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&mehot=pp&sd=271524719413
Unless there has been an unfortunate occurrence in the past, bollox are usually available in pairs!!!
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Is 53mm the right diameter, cause someone here had installed a badge 55mm or so. Anyway I sent the guy an email in Italian, maybe he might change his mind, and asked him the shipping cost to Canada and also the final price cause we do not pay the VAT 20%, So I am waiting for his reply.anyone found a solution ....I found a supplier in Italy that would make the emblem adhesive for the 53mm diam. but refuses to sell to NA.
see lync
http://www.ebay.it/itm/2-ADESIVO-3D...id=100005&rk=5&rkt=6&mehot=pp&sd=271524719413
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So 53mm is too small.Hefbadr
that is what I measured to fit inside ...55mm is the actual opening.
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