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http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-la-motor-show/fiat-124-spider-first-picture-leaked-ahead-la-debut

Based on the Mazda MX-5 and set to become a rival for that car, the 124 Spider will be produced with both Fiat and Abarth badges. The new sports cars are both due in 2016.

While it was initially thought that the Fiat and Abarth versions of the 124 would be similar in terms of styling and power output, it is now known that the two will be substantially different. Rather than the Abarth getting the usual performance makeover of more aggressive front and rear ends, the sports car will actually get different sheet metal to the donor car for a completely different look.

Previous artist’s impressions of the 124 Spider are also understood to have been very wide of the mark. There will be no 500 references in the 124 Spider; instead it will be unashamedly a modern version of the 124 Spider with associated styling cues, in the same way the new 500 is a modern version of the original. This first image certainly supports that theory.

Sources have also shed light on the engines the pair will use. Mazda engines will not feature in the car, meaning the 1.4-litre Multiair turbo from the Fiat range will be adapted for a longitudinal, rear-wheel drive application.

That engine is capable of achieving power outputs of between 118bhp-187bhp, meaning there's enough scope to make the Abarth version more powerful than the standard car without changing its engine. The standard Fiat 124 Spider is expected to come with around 138bhp.

The original 124 Spider - what Fiat's new roadster must live up to

The original Fiat 124 Sport Spider remained in production for a remarkable 19 years.

Designed by Pininfarina and related to the rear-wheel-drive Fiat 124 family, it was launched in 1966, survived the introduction of new emissions and safety regulations in 1974 and was sold as a Fiat until 1982, when the brand pulled out of the United States.

Between 1983 and 1985, it was sold as a Pininfarina, which was a fair reflection of the fact that the Italian design house founded by Sergio Pininfarina had built the car since its launch. Production ended in 1985 after an estimated 200,000 had been built. About three-quarters of them were sold in the US.
 

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If the same engine will be used in both versions, how easy would it be to tinker with the engine in order to get that extra performance out of it?
 

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If the same engine will be used in both versions, how easy would it be to tinker with the engine in order to get that extra performance out of it?
I'm wondering the same thing.
I'm also seeing specs of 140 HP & 160 HP for the standard model. Which is accurate?
 

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well who knows what they're going to put in the Abarth... but it would be a good place to debut that Hurricane TT 4 pot they've been prattling on about for an age...

AND wouldn't it be nice if the abarth was a fixed roof coupe ;)
 

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A friend of mine who works for FCA told me that there are 124 prototypes out there with the motor from the Alfa Romeo 4C. He's thinking that team is testing the Abarth 124 model. We will see.
 

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A friend of mine who works for FCA told me that there are 124 prototypes out there with the motor from the Alfa Romeo 4C. He's thinking that team is testing the Abarth 124 model. We will see.
^^^ This I want to believe! The 1.75L turbo from the 4C would make a much better power plant for the Abarth. I can tell you that the Fiat 124 1.4L turbo will be aftermarket tuned extensively in the USA with targets of 225+ hp. Indeed, Eurocompulsion already offers tunes for that engine that achieve those horsepower levels. Few people will purchase an Abarth for $35k+ if they can have a Fiat 124 with the same power for thousands less!
 

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If they do that, and bring it to market sooner than Subaru can bring the BRZ STi to market, we could be seeing a lot of people go for the Abarth 124 instead! Going to be fun seeing those go head to head.
 

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It would but the BRZ/FRS weighs 2700lbs. in Autocross trim, 300-500 lbs under the competition, which is why they are so successful. The 124 doubles down here......
 

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That looks like a Lusso with an Abarth badge photoshopped onto it. Of course not seeing the lower half doesn't do it justice.
 

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I doubt those figures are correct. FCA people have said 200 hp is the goal.

I'm also starting to think the 'different sheet metal' may just be a fixed roof for the Abarth...
 

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Hurricane engine FTW! Although not sure if FCA will let it go, ALFA is supposed to debut that engine but not sure of time frames
 

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What year do you have to go back to in order to arrive at a comparable price point?
Assuming $35K for the Abarth..... 09/10 would be a good cutoff (pending mileage/seller, etc) Market will be quite different come June next year.


09 was switch to DFI and Porsche's brilliant DCT
 
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