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So, this week I took my '19 Abarth to a local reputable detail shop with good reviews for some work. Getting it detailed/decontaminated (lots of ash bonded to the paint from local wildfires over the past few months), some minor paint correction on the gloss panels, then Ceramic Pro for the whole car.

The guy from the shop told me there was a mishap while using a buff/polish tool on the trunk. Apparently the tool bumped into the antenna and slid onto the trunk. They had the trunk taped off from the gloss panel, but the tool slipped over the line, and there's now a shiny/polished strip on my trunk matte Heritage Stripe. Obviously, I'm not happy and it doesn't look good.

The detail shop owner was very apologetic, and offered me two options:
-Wrap the trunk and hood stripe with Xpel Stealth matte​
-Cover the repainting of the trunk stripe. He welcomed me to get my own estimate, but told me the name of the shop he uses. Seems well-regarded as well.​
It seems from some cursory reading here, the Heritage Stripe is (predictably) a bitch to match. I mentioned this to the detail shop owner, and he admitted that if he had the trunk repainted, that it very likely would not match the hood. He said he could cover the cost of the trunk repainting, but not the hood. I didn't push anything as I was on my way to a work thing, and told him I'd have to think about it and get back to him.

Would appreciate any opinions on what would be the best course of action here. I don't think either option is a really great, as I'd like to preserve the original matte paint finish. Painting the trunk only creates another problem as it appears that even with the Fiat paint code (QKM), it probably won't match the original finish on the hood, and I don't know if pushing for them to cover cost of the hood is realistic. I know a wrap basically looks the same, and is much easier to care for, but not seeing my real paint underneath and knowing that the paint beneath the wrap is messed up would bug me. I hate being a dick and still need the shop to finish work on my car. Am I being too anal here? Help! Thanks.
 

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Tough choices... but it is what it is unfortunately. Personally I'd go for the matching new hood and trunk wrap, I couldn't live with potentially mismatched hood/trunk finish if the repainted trunk option was done. A third (long-shot) option would be to source a wrapped trunk from a front ended crash damaged car.... at no cost to you of course !!!
 

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Hey all,

So, this week I took my '19 Abarth to a local reputable detail shop with good reviews for some work. Getting it detailed/decontaminated (lots of ash bonded to the paint from local wildfires over the past few months), some minor paint correction on the gloss panels, then Ceramic Pro for the whole car.

The guy from the shop told me there was a mishap while using a buff/polish tool on the trunk. Apparently the tool bumped into the antenna and slid onto the trunk. They had the trunk taped off from the gloss panel, but the tool slipped over the line, and there's now a shiny/polished strip on my trunk matte Heritage Stripe. Obviously, I'm not happy and it doesn't look good.

The detail shop owner was very apologetic, and offered me two options:
-Wrap the trunk and hood stripe with Xpel Stealth matte​
-Cover the repainting of the trunk stripe. He welcomed me to get my own estimate, but told me the name of the shop he uses. Seems well-regarded as well.​
It seems from some cursory reading here, the Heritage Stripe is (predictably) a bitch to match. I mentioned this to the detail shop owner, and he admitted that if he had the trunk repainted, that it very likely would not match the hood. He said he could cover the cost of the trunk repainting, but not the hood. I didn't push anything as I was on my way to a work thing, and told him I'd have to think about it and get back to him.

Would appreciate any opinions on what would be the best course of action here. I don't think either option is a really great, as I'd like to preserve the original matte paint finish. Painting the trunk only creates another problem as it appears that even with the Fiat paint code (QKM), it probably won't match the original finish on the hood, and I don't know if pushing for them to cover cost of the hood is realistic. I know a wrap basically looks the same, and is much easier to care for, but not seeing my real paint underneath and knowing that the paint beneath the wrap is messed up would bug me. I hate being a dick and still need the shop to finish work on my car. Am I being too anal here? Help! Thanks.
A good paint shop should be able to match any aging on the hood. I've had a few issues on older cars taken care of like a hood that was repainted, you couldn't tell the difference between the hood and the fenders afterwards.
 

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I would opt for the respray. As mentioned above a top notch paint shop is going to be very close, if not dead on, to the original paint color. Any slight mismatch will probably not be discernible due to the distance between the panels. Most of us have learned to live with the slight factory color difference between the front bumper cap and front fender.

I would not do the wrap for the same reason you mentioned. It’s just a unrepaired coverup.

Good luck on your resolution.

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I'd agree with depotdan. Respray is best and unless it's a massively bad match the distance between the two panels should make it not really noticeable. Sorry for your troubles.
 

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I agree: caring for that Heritage Stripe is a bitch 7 days of the week. That’s why I barely ever touch it.

I was thinking of taking my Spider to the local detailer but your story confirmed my hesitation. It takes me 20 minutes to wash and 45 minutes to wax the car; I think I can keep doing it myself.

Per what to do: at this point I’d go with the wrap; less room for something else to go wrong.

Good luck.
 

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I agree: caring for that Heritage Stripe is a bitch 7 days of the week. That’s why I barely ever touch it.

I was thinking of taking my Spider to the local detailer but your story confirmed my hesitation. It takes me 20 minutes to wash and 45 minutes to wax the car; I think I can keep doing it myself.
No help to the OP, but that's one of the reasons why I avoided the stripe.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong; drying the car takes me as long as washing it.
 
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No help to the OP, but that's one of the reasons why I avoided the stripe.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong; drying the car takes me as long as washing it.
One of the few benefits of the Heritage Stripe, well besides looking great, is that it dries surprisingly easily. I use a chamois to dry the car; while the regular paint takes several passes, the Heritage Stripe wipes right off.

And since the Stripe takes no wax, I really only have half the car left to wax.

The Stripe is really a time saver. Problem is, it requires very specific care.
 

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My Spider is garaged. I doubt I’d have the Heritage Stripe if it stayed outside.
 

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That sucks. Sounds like a terrible detailer because either he couldn't control an orbital, which would be insane, or, without seeing a picture, it sounds like he just started to buff it and realize he'd messed up and is now lying about it. I'd have it resprayed but there's zero chance I'd be going to a shop the detailer recommends. Generally speaking, I would play serious hardball here. Detailer messed up big and you shouldn't be left with a permanently damaged product.

No help to the OP, but that's one of the reasons why I avoided the stripe.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong; drying the car takes me as long as washing it.
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I use my leaf blower. It's a lot more powerful than that wimpy thing.

What takes so long is drying the inner surfaces where all the water collects (door and trunk areas, for instance). Do you ignore those?
I used to use the leaf blower, that's a sledgehammer. Need to start by blowing water out of all those crevices (where the focused tip comes in handy), the side marker lights, the door mirrors, the emblems, gas cap area, etc. You've used a Metro Blaster before?

Edit: how's your water beading in general? Whatever wax or coating you have is applied in the jambs as well?
 

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I agree: caring for that Heritage Stripe is a bitch 7 days of the week. That’s why I barely ever touch it.

I was thinking of taking my Spider to the local detailer but your story confirmed my hesitation. It takes me 20 minutes to wash and 45 minutes to wax the car; I think I can keep doing it myself.

Per what to do: at this point I’d go with the wrap; less room for something else to go wrong.

Good luck.
20 minutes to wash it? I spend 2-3 hours each time mine gets a wash...:oops:😂
 

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Something similar happened to me last summer.

I opted to just have the thing wrapped and I've never looked back. My painted stripe was neglected by the first owner so I it was no big loss to me. It looks brand new now and I have peace of mind knowing that if it ever gets damaged, I can just wrap it again. It's so much less to worry about.
 

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So wildfires...I'm assuming you're in California...there are a few of us here. You might want to ask if anyone here has a good paint shop that they've used over the years. There's a lot of collective automobile experience here in the forum.
 

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I picked the car up from the detailer this weekend and got a chance to take it to some body/paint shops today, including the one recommended by the detailer. Not so great vibes from that one. Other shops were confident they could get pretty close, but of course not 100%. I dropped the car back off at the detailer this evening to finish the work. He agreed to cut me a check for the amount to respray the trunk, which I’ll hold on to until I’m ready to repaint the entire stripe. The smear on the trunk is annoying but I’ll live with it for a little while. The hood is not in amazing condition anyway, so a repaint wouldn’t be a bad idea. @depotdan Upland isn’t too far from me, I’ll definitely check them out when I’m ready! Thanks everyone for your input.

here’s a photo of the damage taken under shop lights:
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I picked the car up from the detailer this weekend and got a chance to take it to some body/paint shops today, including the one recommended by the detailer. Not so great vibes from that one. Other shops were confident they could get pretty close, but of course not 100%. I dropped the car back off at the detailer this evening to finish the work. He agreed to cut me a check for the amount to respray the trunk, which I’ll hold on to until I’m ready to repaint the entire stripe. The smear on the trunk is annoying but I’ll live with it for a little while. The hood is not in amazing condition anyway, so a repaint wouldn’t be a bad idea. @depotdan Upland isn’t too far from me, I’ll definitely check them out when I’m ready! Thanks everyone for your input.

here’s a photo of the damage taken under shop lights:
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Long shot, but would any of the specialist matt paint detailing products help here... Any way I hope you get a decent outcome paint wise. At least the detailer has paid up.... Hope the rest of the work was done at no charge? Over here, Scotland, I have only used Autoglym Aquawax over entire car, Heritage stripe gets a light misting then straight wipes off with new Microfiber cloths provided. Over the four years, and "damp" Scottish weather, 22000 miles later, this has kept it easier to clean than some suggested. Not sure you can get Autoglym in US but Meguiars etc make similar products. Hope that is of some help? G
 
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