Anyone install a Boost Gauge yet?

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jks9256

Discussion Starter · Dec 14, 2016

I was wondering if anyone have plans to install a Boost Gauge and if so, what brand and what location in your Spider will you be installing it?

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Greg

· #2 · Dec 14, 2016

Iv'e been wondering the same thing. Every time I need to do development, I have to string a boost line in through the window and tape the gauge to the dash. I really need to come up with something more permanent. It's a crime that Fiat didn't give us a boost gauge.

Greg

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PureAdrenaline

· #3 · Dec 14, 2016

I read boost off of my Ultra Gauge. It is a digital display. Boost really moves all over the place when at part throttle.

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JFernald

· #4 · Dec 14, 2016 (Edited)

PureAdrenaline said:
I read boost off of my Ultra Gauge. It is a digital display. Boost really moves all over the place when at part throttle.

Do you use the Ultra Gauge for your 0-60 times? Also, do you leave it plugged in all the time, so it can record things like fuel economy while you are looking at your smart phone?

PureAdrenaline

· #5 · Dec 14, 2016

JFernald said:
Do you use the Ultra Gauge for your 0-60 times? Also, do you leave it plugged in all the time, so it can record things like fuel economy while you are looking at your smart phone?

Yes it works extremely well on 0-60 times and 1/4 mile times. I leave my plugged in all the time and use it as a separate meter to read certain parameters...one being boost pressure. Do not use it for fuel economy even though it has a more elaborate fuel economy setup than the 124 system does. I am quite happy with it as I have used several of these OBDII gauges in the past...this one seems to be the best so far.

Greg

· #6 · Dec 14, 2016

Just keep in mind that anything reading boost through the OBD 2 port will not be accurate with a piggy-back device like Euro+Drive Lite. Also, many devices that read through the OBD2 port will not read above 22.6psi. So for certain applications, and actual boost gauge is the only way

Greg

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JFernald

· #7 · Dec 14, 2016

Greg said:
Just keep in mind that anything reading boost through the OBD 2 port will not be accurate with a piggy-back device like Euro+Drive Lite. Also, many devices that read through the OBD2 port will not read above 22.6psi. So for certain applications, and actual boost gauge is the only way

Greg

Thanks, Greg. That is pretty much what I thought, since the EDL is measuring the actual boost, then modifying that signal before it gets to the engine control module.

SteveWy

· #8 · Dec 14, 2016

Too bad some form of oil pressure gauge either.

jks9256

Discussion Starter · #9 · Dec 14, 2016

Greg said:
Iv'e been wondering the same thing. Every time I need to do development, I have to string a boost line in through the window and tape the gauge to the dash. I really need to come up with something more permanent. It's a crime that Fiat didn't give us a boost gauge.

Greg

It really is a crime. I've thought about doing a three gauge pillar on the side like most people do, but at the same time I feel like it can be pretty tacky and wanted something more OEM that would blend in with the interior gauges. I have seen some Abarth oil pressure and boost pressure gauges, but they only read in bar and have an orange backlight to them.

PureAdrenaline

· #10 · Dec 14, 2016

Yup... was aware of that. Would actually rather have an oil pressure gauge than boost. But that is not available through the OBDII port.

Greg

· #11 · Dec 14, 2016

I think a boost gauge is more important. Oil pressure is never going to be a problem in this car. However mods make changes to boost, so it's nice to see that, plus sometimes the cars develop boost leaks or other issues you can see on the boost gauge.

Greg

Greg

· #12 · Dec 14, 2016

jks9256 said:
I have seen some Abarth oil pressure and boost pressure gauges, but they only read in bar and have an orange backlight to them.

Please post a link to that, I would love to see it.

Greg

GuidoVeloce

· #13 · Dec 14, 2016

It would be so easy for Fiat/Mazda to provide an "Instruments" App for the 7" display...

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PureAdrenaline

· #14 · Dec 14, 2016 (Edited)

Greg said:
I think a boost gauge is more important. Oil pressure is never going to be a problem in this car. However mods make changes to boost, so it's nice to see that, plus sometimes the cars develop boost leaks or other issues you can see on the boost gauge.

Greg

Not trying to hi-jack this thread... but why do you believe that oil pressure will never be a problem in this car? It's good to hear. I am not familiar with the internal workings of this engine and I am just curious of what about their system makes you think that. If you would rather pm me that is fine. Thanks for the info.

jks9256

Discussion Starter · #15 · Dec 14, 2016

Greg said:
jks9256 said:

I have seen some Abarth oil pressure and boost pressure gauges, but they only read in bar and have an orange backlight to them.

Click to expand...

Please post a link to that, I would love to see it.

Greg

Boost gauge

http://shop.500madness.com/fiat-124...arth-boost-pressure-gauge-black-bezel-pid4376

Oil Pressure Gauge

http://shop.500madness.com/fiat-124...nalog-oil-pressure-gauge-silver-bezel-pid2135

PureAdrenaline

· #16 · Jan 26, 2017

Greg said:
Iv'e been wondering the same thing. Every time I need to do development, I have to string a boost line in through the window and tape the gauge to the dash. I really need to come up with something more permanent. It's a crime that Fiat didn't give us a boost gauge.

Greg

Greg,

Where are you connecting the boost line at for your gauge?...

Greg

· #17 · Jan 26, 2017

PureAdrenaline said:
Not trying to hi-jack this thread... but why do you believe that oil pressure will never be a problem in this car? It's good to hear. I am not familiar with the internal workings of this engine and I am just curious of what about their system makes you think that. If you would rather pm me that is fine. Thanks for the info.

I somehow missed this post earlier. This engine's oiling system is pretty near bulletproof. Plus is has an excellent oil cooler so the pressure stays pretty stable even when you do things that would heat up the oil a lot in other cars. I just haven't seen or even heard of any oil pressure related problems with this engine. Now I have heard of problems with the multiair passages getting clogged, but that's from not changing the oil.

Greg

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ForzaFiata

· #18 · Jan 26, 2017

Best place to put one is downstream of the turbo (duh) in an easily accessible area. You'll have to drill/tap a bung into the intake/Y-pipe and then find a creative way to fish that tube into the cabin area.

As for gauges, I'd recommend one of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Prosport-Un...ash=item41b6f5f1bb:g:Ih4AAOSwcUBYGmm7&vxp=mtr

One of those colors should work well with the interior lighting scheme.

Unfortunately you will have to get creative with the gauge pod... No one makes a direct swap for the ND Miata yet.

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Greg

· #19 · Jan 26, 2017

PureAdrenaline said:
Greg,

Where are you connecting the boost line at for your gauge?...

I use a "T" to spice into some of the plumbing on the intake manifold. I don't have a picture, but I'll try and find one.

Greg

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PureAdrenaline

· #20 · Jan 26, 2017

ForzaFiata said:
Best place to put one is downstream of the turbo (duh) in an easily accessible area. You'll have to drill/tap a bung into the intake/Y-pipe and then find a creative way to fish that tube into the cabin area.

As for gauges, I'd recommend one of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Prosport-Un...ash=item41b6f5f1bb:g:Ih4AAOSwcUBYGmm7&vxp=mtr

One of those colors should work well with the interior lighting scheme.

Unfortunately you will have to get creative with the gauge pod... No one makes a direct swap for the ND Miata yet.

I am going to go with the Autometer Cobalt Mechanical gauge...https://www.amazon.com/Auto-Meter-6103-Cobalt-Mechanical/dp/B000CIH9KE/ref=sr_1_10?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1485448546&sr=1-10&keywords=autometer+boost+gauge...I like mechanical gauges when it comes to boost...most likely get a single universal pod and heat it up to mold it to the existing pillar shape...I have done this before and it usually works pretty good...thanks for your input

Greg said:
I use a "T" to spice into some of the plumbing on the intake manifold. I don't have a picture, but I'll try and find one.

Greg

That will be great...a simple T is what I am looking for...thanks

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