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My Lusso, with about 3K miles, went back to the service department today and evidently needs a new thermostat. Just a few weeks ago I had to have a coil pack replaced. Evidently there are NO thermostats available in the US although 18 are in transport somewhere, according to the parts department. (Shouldn't this be the same thermostat as the 500 Abarth?)
Anyway - car was delivered Sept 2 so we're not batting too well. All the tech could do was reset the error and send me on my way keeping a watch out for overheating (there hasn't been any.)
 

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My Lusso, with about 3K miles, went back to the service department today and evidently needs a new thermostat. Just a few weeks ago I had to have a coil pack replaced. Evidently there are NO thermostats available in the US although 18 are in transport somewhere, according to the parts department. (Shouldn't this be the same thermostat as the 500 Abarth?)
Anyway - car was delivered Sept 2 so we're not batting too well. All the tech could do was reset the error and send me on my way keeping a watch out for overheating (there hasn't been any.)
What's the issue with the thermostat? Is it stuck open, or stuck closed?

If open, no big deal. Just replace it when one comes in.

If closed, no big deal. Just take it out until one comes in.

Either way I dare say you're right that it's the same as the 500 part.
 

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it could be likely that it not be the same as a 500. I have noted that the rad cap is higher than has been standard in the past for cars I am familiar with. So I went poking about to see if the A500 used the same cap and it uses one even higher than the 124. So there is something about the cooling system that is different that even the rad cap is different. I away on a trip so I can't bug anyone easily right now to verify but I would not be surprised to see them being different tstats.
 

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It doesn't seem to be stuck either way - just throwing off error codes. The car isn't overheating and there are no other issues and I was caught off guard when the tech asked if the car had overheated. The service procedure gives two options - check fluids and if that isn't a problem then replace the part. So far since the reset there have been no errors. A fluke maybe, although the code didn't clear itself after a couple of days. I'll just wait for the part, drive it and see if anything happens.
 

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Hm... that's pretty odd but I guess order it and change it out anyways ? Warranty so I guess it doesn't really matter. Once it's not affecting the way it drives now or anything
 

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It doesn't seem to be stuck either way - just throwing off error codes. The car isn't overheating and there are no other issues and I was caught off guard when the tech asked if the car had overheated. The service procedure gives two options - check fluids and if that isn't a problem then replace the part. So far since the reset there have been no errors. A fluke maybe, although the code didn't clear itself after a couple of days. I'll just wait for the part, drive it and see if anything happens.

Just want to follow up since by now you should have put on a decent amount of mileage to see if it will come back again, has it?


At least with this being a Mazda based Fiat we have less to worry about, far less than owners of any other new Fiats :D
 

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I wonder if it is a sensor problem?
 

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Another thermostat issue, with bonus headache...

I had that same check-engine light warning, diagnosed as a bad thermostat sensor. 3-week wait for the part, and (here's the bonus) while trying to replace it, the service department BROKE THE WINDSHIELD! :mad: That was a week and a half ago, and still no car because they're apparently "waiting for a part." I'll be expecting to hear from the service manager tomorrow (Monday), and I'm hoping for a quick and considerate resolution. I really don't want to start a service department blacklist thread here, but hey -- we gotta look out for each other, right? Stay tuned...
 

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This thermostat issue is absurd. They ought to call the local Dodge parts guys. I can't believe they wouldn't have one . . .
 

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I had that same check-engine light warning, diagnosed as a bad thermostat sensor. 3-week wait for the part, and (here's the bonus) while trying to replace it, the service department BROKE THE WINDSHIELD! :mad: That was a week and a half ago, and still no car because they're apparently "waiting for a part." I'll be expecting to hear from the service manager tomorrow (Monday), and I'm hoping for a quick and considerate resolution. I really don't want to start a service department blacklist thread here, but hey -- we gotta look out for each other, right? Stay tuned...
OMG - how awful. Mine was safely replaced, fortunately, but the tech did tell me that its an especially difficult repair because of where it is located - basically against the bulkhead. It was supposed to take 2 hours and ended up taking him an hour longer. I hope the windshield doesn't take so long. It has a sound coating on it, evidently, the Mazda's doens't have so you want the Fiat/Mopar part.

According to my dealer, there are others out there with the thermostat issue and Fiat is requesting the original parts be sent to them for diagnosis. They said there were 18 thermostats in transit to the US, expected at the beginning of December with a handful in the country now. 210RS, if its any consolation, the car has been very well behaved since the replacement. Good luck.
 
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I got a blinking check engine light yesterday during a somewhat spirited drive. It went out after about 30 seconds and didn't return. The car has about 800 miles on it, and I'll be taking it in for an oil change soon. Wonder what code it stored? Thermostat? Will report back one way or the other...
 

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I got a blinking check engine light yesterday during a somewhat spirited drive. It went out after about 30 seconds and didn't return. The car has about 800 miles on it, and I'll be taking it in for an oil change soon. Wonder what code it stored? Thermostat? Will report back one way or the other...
You were accelerating? I had to have a coil pack replaced in my first 200 miles. Triggered the same flashing engine light although it also idled rough later on. You might have that checked. Tech told me this happens from time to time. This was in September - took a week to get the part.
 
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