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Old fashioned scuttle shake? He's got to be kidding. This car feels as planted and solid as any roadster I've ever driven - and there's been a few. I think there are some critics that just are dying to come up with clever negative remarks to make them seem more, well, clever. And, its a gorgeous car. Maybe its just that I've always found the MX-5 looks too much like a toy, but I just don't get it.
 

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Hmm....

I’ve spent more time than usual discussing the way this car looks because that’s the whole point of it. The main reason you’d buy one is that you find the MX-5 a bit weedy and you want something a bit more hirsute.
 

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Old fashioned scuttle shake? He's got to be kidding. This car feels as planted and solid as any roadster I've ever driven - and there's been a few. I think there are some critics that just are dying to come up with clever negative remarks to make them seem more, well, clever. And, its a gorgeous car. Maybe its just that I've always found the MX-5 looks too much like a toy, but I just don't get it.

Unless he just came out of driving some of the stiffest vehicles you could run on a road course track or on local roads but this is also why I don't depend on just one source. Often its better to look to who has driven enough vehicles along the lines of what you want that can provide feedback most valuable to you.
 

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I think the problem in the UK is the pricing. It's expensive there, and the Abarth is crazy expensive. Here in Aus the Abarth is the same price as the top spec MX5. That makes it the sensible buy.
 

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Clarkson has a point regarding the rear-end styling. That upturn in the rear quarter-panels was a distinctive, eye-catching feature of the original 124 Spider. But the re-stylists, working with a more rounded trunk lid, echoed that effect by canting the horizontal tail lights. Not as clean as the original, but it did leave more room in the trunk!
 

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Everyone is entitled to an opinion. I just bought the Abarth and had considered the Mazda Club. It's the only one with a LSD, and the Mazda community is convinced that it needs aftermarket suspension bits to make it drive right. And the steering is not as good as in the Fiat. The Fiat feels like the hydraulic steering in my 2000 Miata, and the 2017 Club had a very distinctive disconnect .
The best part of all this is that they are still all good cars, although Mazda is dealing with a transmission defect in the 6MT. I'd have thought Clarkson would care more about that, but I'd guess he does not know.
He is not omnipotent and this review just goes to show that.
 

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Jeremy is a great presenter, especially on Top Gear, but I wouldn't take his words as fact especially when he was reviewing it with the expectation of it being exactly the same as the MIata. To each their own I say and the 124 Spider is better IMO.
 

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Clarkson likes the Abarth too. They've just got the price point wrong in the UK.
 

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I think the problem in the UK is the pricing. It's expensive there, and the Abarth is crazy expensive. Here in Aus the Abarth is the same price as the top spec MX5. That makes it the sensible buy.
The Abarth is the equivalent of $36,645
My Fiat Lusso Plus cost $7,700 less
 

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This review was written by a guy who punched an unpaid intern for not bringing his lunch soon enough. By doing so he trashed one of the best auto shows ever costing hundreds of people their jobs, disappointing millions of fans, and embarrassing his employers who took a chance on him and TG in the beginning. And despite every re-configuration attempt Top Gear has not come back to anywhere near its former glory. TG and it's magic will never be back.

I'm not saying he's not entitled to his opinion, I'm wondering if it needs to matter anymore. Originally the show was about the love of cars and good guys hanging out. By the time he had his tantrum all that was gone.

I've spent most of my life in the entertainment business and worked with some awesome people and also seen all kinds of this assholish behavior. The latter really does piss me off.

Flame off

Steve
 

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Something I've noticed with all the UK 124 reviews is that when they compare the 124 and MX5-

Price and economy they use the 1.5 litre Mazda.

Performance they use the 2 litre Mazda.

Therefore implying that the Fiat is thirstier, more expensive and slightly slower...

In reality, yes it's thirstier and more expensive but way faster than the 1.5 and slightly cheaper and slower than the 2 litre but more economical.

So comparing apples and apples there's nothing in it.
 

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are you saying on your side of the pond they are comparing apples to oranges, referencing pears? my advice, give them a raspberry.....:p
 

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Something I've noticed with all the UK 124 reviews is that when they compare the 124 and MX5-

Price and economy they use the 1.5 litre Mazda.

Performance they use the 2 litre Mazda.

Therefore implying that the Fiat is thirstier, more expensive and slightly slower...

In reality, yes it's thirstier and more expensive but way faster than the 1.5 and slightly cheaper and slower than the 2 litre but more economical.

So comparing apples and apples there's nothing in it.
Actually neither is the case. The Abarth (Aus spec which is 168hp...same as the UK) is quicker than the MX5 2.0 (Aus spec which is 158hp...same as the UK). Not by a lot but it is quicker. And the Abarth uses more fuel than the MX5 2.0 (about 10% more). Don't give a toss about "official" numbers....I'm giving you the straight dope from having both of them in my garage.
 
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