[jconli1]

Beginning the task of subtly sharpening up the Classica, more into a bit of a sleeper spec. I like the stock suspension's damping (especially since the car is mostly for commute/backroad duty) but it feels a bit more numb in the corners than I'd like. Also, with the 16" wheels, it sits a bit tall visually. 17"s are not currently part of my plan.

I don't want an autocross-slaying, slammed, full performance setup... just a bit of sharpening with no more than 1" of drop. My hope is that something simple like the Eibach ProKit springs matched with the stock dampers would bridge that gap... keeping the general compliance but allowing a little more feeling in the twisties. Pair that with some caster adjustment to improve steering firmness, and that might be all it needs.

I know conventional forum widsom is never retain stock components... but they're pretty good and with a fairly minor spring swap, I can't imagine it's going to be a lot of stress on the Tokicos. Am I crazy?

Anyone have direct experience with this approach yet?

Follow-up oddity - the US distributors note 0.8" front and rear drop with this setup (perfect!) but their European site shows 1.3" front and 1" rear for the kit of the same name.

 

[GarchingS54]

The Euro version of the ProKit lowers the car more then the US version.
I think, the EibachProKit + stock dampers will work as well in the Spider as in the MX5 ND.

btw. I really recommend an aligment if you change the springs or something at the suspension. The factory alignment isn't pretty well.

 

[jconli1]

btw. I really recommend an aligment if you change the springs or something at the suspension. The factory alignment isn't pretty well.

I've heard that. There's a very good alignment/tuning specialist nearby who I plan on using for the final alignment and caster adjust. (Of course, his recommendation of a "stage one" suspension upgrade was full coilovers...)

 

[Greg]

I strongly suggest the H&R springs and Eibach Anti-sway bars. We stock most if not all of the brands but those are the ones I use. https://shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/fiat-124-suspension

Greg

 

[Greg]

Full coilovers are the way to go for a track car, but for a street car I wouldn't.

Greg

 

[PureAdrenaline]

This is my car on H&R springs and the Eibach sway bars...stock 17" wheel and tire size...I really enjoy the look and performance...

 

[jconli1]

Pure, I've seen (and enjoyed) your pix but it's just a *bit* lower than what I'm looking for, hence the hope that the Eibach Prokit is the way to go (roughly 0.5" less drop from the H&R. Just to confirm, you've still got the stock dampers on there?

 

[PureAdrenaline]

Pure, I've seen (and enjoyed) your pix but it's just a *bit* lower than what I'm looking for, hence the hope that the Eibach Prokit is the way to go (roughly 0.5" less drop from the H&R. Just to confirm, you've still got the stock (Tokico, I think) dampers on there?

Sure do...wouldn't change them out unless you plan on doing some racing...these work quite well for normal everyday driving and canyon carving...

 

[uttekku]

The Euro version of the ProKit lowers the car more then the US version.
I think, the EibachProKit + stock dampers will work as well in the Spider as in the MX5 ND.

btw. I really recommend an aligment if you change the springs or something at the suspension. The factory alignment isn't pretty well.

do you mean toe adjusment for aligment? thanks...

 

[GarchingS54]

Toe, caster and camber is rather bad from factory.

-1,5deg. camber front/rear
+8deg caster
and
+6' front toe (12')
+9' rear toe (18')

after lowering

' = minutes

 

[uttekku]

Toe, caster and camber is rather bad from factory.

-1,5deg. camber front/rear
+8deg caster
and
+6' front toe (12')
+9' rear toe (18')

after lowering

' = minutes

sorry for my newbie question; can we adjust all with the stock suspension (only with lowering springs). thanks for your quick answer

 

[sdlynx]

This is my car on H&R springs and the Eibach sway bars...stock 17" wheel and tire size...I really enjoy the look and performance...

I like that tan interior of yours.

For my Lusso's suspension I went with Cusco Zero 3R Competition suspension. However, this is my track project vs. my street Abarth.

 

[GarchingS54]

sorry for my newbie question; can we adjust all with the stock suspension (only with lowering springs). thanks for your quick answer

Without loweri your car, the camper max at front will be about 1.2-1.4
Go for the max camper what you can archiev with about 7-8deg. caster.

 

[GarchingS54]

I like that tan interior of yours.

For my Lusso's suspension I went with Cusco Zero 3R Competition suspension. However, this is my track project vs. my street Abarth.

OZ Superturismo LM 7,5x18 ET35 with 215/45-17?

 

[sdlynx]

OZ Superturismo LM 7,5x18 ET35 with 215/45-17?

Close - 17X17.5 with 215/45/17.

 

[GarchingS54]

****. They are only available in 17" 0