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Alright so as some of us have mentioned we really DON’T care for the “pinkish purple” Oil dipstick that came with our 124’s. So I have a few options that are available to us…One is inexpensive and not very time consuming and the other…expensive and time consuming. After all its just a DIP stick!

Expensive Dipstick Modification

1- CravenSpeed The Dipstick handle for Mazda. SKU:*DPK-07AH5 $40.00



2- 6 x 2mm Buna 70 Rings . Oringsandmore $1.25
(ordered off of eBay)

1 - Mazda dipstick (Mazda of Gladstone) Mazda part number P301-10-450 $7.98 (w/ shipping)






NOT needed but I ordered just incase .

1- Indicator -Engine Oil Level (Mopar-FIAT) #68320845AA $13.44



Now you are asking WHY do I have two Dipsticks (actually three) …Great question.

My plan was to use the existing factory dipstick and remove the handle, place it in the CravenSpeed handle and be done.

Well…. even though the dipstick WILL fit within the CravenSpeed handle. I decided to go the way of the Mazda dipstick. A few reasons.







One: The CravenSpeed handle is set up to accept this (Mazda dipstick) so its faster and less modifications needed to complete.

Two: The Factory dip stick handle (pink/purple) would need to be removed from the dipstick and I think, the only way to do this, was to melt it off or grind/cut/shave it off. In the end, this seemed more work then was really necessary. Plus, you would have to epoxy the CravenSpeed handle on to the dipstick.

The CravenSpeed oil indicator handle is a well machined item. Powder-coated and looks great standalone. BUT its designed for the Mazda engine. So it needs a Mazda Oil level indicator to work as designed.

On a roll of the dice ($8 worth) I bought a Mazda dipstick for a MX-5 (2015) through an online source. Mazda of Gladstone out of California. Then just incase the Mazda item didn’t work, I purchased an extra 124 Spider dipstick. ($13 worth).

Once I got the CravenSpeed handle I discovered it fit the existing oil indicator dipstick tube…but it wasn't’ snug. Sloppy actually. I decided to order several sizes of Orings 6 x 2mm, 6 x 2.5mm and 6 x 3mm to see if I could shore it up.

Unfortunately, you can’t just order 2-3…they come in various quantities. Lots of 10, 25 etc.
Btw…if you need any ORINGS…I got a few.

I ordered these from oringsandmore.com through eBay. They are a good company, as they shipped fast and even refunded me for shipping costs.

The 6 x 2mm fit nicely. If the grove where the Orings lay (in the CravenSpeed handle) was/were a little larger, then the 6 x 2.5mm would be a better fit. But as it is the 6 x 2mm works well and don’t roll out of the slots. Also, there are two Orings opposed to one on the stock dipstick.

Ok so the Handle fits the tube, but I don’t have a dipstick. The mazda unit works just like the instructions on the CravenSpeed website. Follow the instruction and BAM! You have a new dipstick for your 124 Spider! You are pau!!!! enjoy your handy work.


Now if there are any cons to this mod it would be the Mazda dipstick is a 1/4 inch short. WTH?!?! I don’t want miss read my oil! Well here is the thing. You won’t. The pictures included have both been dipped in Wendi and they read how you would expect. The CravenSpeed /Mazda measures between the two dots. The FIAT measures at the very top. Once you realize you are reading how it should read to begin with instead of the Fiat crosshatch marked way. You’ll be good.






Also, the inserting of the oil dipstick is a bit stiffer with the Mazda as its not cylindrical like the Fiat. This might discourage some from wanting to do this mod. But its really not a big deal.

Oh and the CravenSpeed handle is metal..so she’s gets a tad warm when you are checking the oil. She be hot! lol

The Pro is obvious the “look” is better and you can actually READ the dipstick quite a bit easier then the Fiat setup.




IN short...all I did was order a Mazda dipstick and new orings. You could remove the existing purple handle and insert it within the CravenSpeed handle as it will fit.

 

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few more pictures
 

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Ooops Here is the diameter of the Fiat and the Cravenspeed dipstick with the new orings.
 

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Mahalo @Mike34. This mod really looks good. I have the handle and the Mazda dipstick is supposed to be here today. I received the o-rings from my Hawaiian source. Hopefully have this mod in tonight.

Aloha, Dan
 

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I wrote Cravenspeed a few months ago and asked if they were planning on making one for the Fiat. They told me to stay tuned...
 

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I wrote Cravenspeed a few months ago and asked if they were planning on making one for the Fiat. They told me to stay tuned...
Thats great to hear...I had been in touch with them and gave them all my info while I was doing this mod. Gave them pictures, measurements etc. They are quick to return any inquiries and were very appreciative of the info I sent. I know they will make a great product.

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Mahalo @Mike34. All received. All assembled. Installed. I like the “red”. As you said it is a little stiff getting it into the hole. Needs a firm push with a little twist. >:)The hardest part of the installation was getting the roll pin inserted into the adapter.

Aloha, Dan
 

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Look at that! That looks great sir!!!!!! woot.

Aloha @depotdan

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Mike, Mazda screwed up dearly when assembly the 124spider, Here the Miata is known as a girly car, so instead of puting the pink handle on the Miata they put it on the Spider, Fiat should correct this problem.:confused:

Mike did you notice a difference between your new ignition coils vs EOM.
I think I noticed a more response with NGEN coils in the High rev. Did you remove also the engine cover . tia
 

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Mike, Mazda screwed up dearly when assembly the 124spider, Here the Miata is known as a girly car, so instead of puting the pink handle on the Miata they put it on the Spider, Fiat should correct this problem./forum/images/smilies/confused.gif

Mike did you notice a difference between your new ignition coils vs EOM.
I think I noticed a more response with NGEN coils in the High rev. Did you remove also the engine cover . tia
Yes I did..when I swapped them out I also changed the plugs to the pregapped by EC. Same stuck plugs. But it seemed to idle and just be an over all smoother pull and run. I still have the cover. I like the scorpion on the engine cover. But if and when I do the same type of idea @depotdan for the valve cover. Then I would need to remove the cover. I do need to paint or powder coat the turbo bracket. That big triangle needs help.

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That big triangle needs help.
@Mike34I used black caliper paint. Happy with the result. @Phillip33 and I decided to not use the battery surround box and the plastic battery holddown cover. They are really not needed and eliminate the need for the protective rubber cover for the EC intake runner. The bottom tray is retained. Please excuse the dust. Aurora is in need of a rub down.

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@Mike34I used black caliper paint. Happy with the result. @Phillip33 and I decided to not use the battery surround box and the plastic battery holddown cover. They are really not needed and eliminate the need for the protective rubber cover for the EC intake runner. The bottom tray is retained. Please excuse the dust. Aurora is in need of a rub down.

Aloha, Dan
I also removed the battery surround and plastic battery holddown cover.
 

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Here is the red dipstick @CDPond

aloha mike
 

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God I love cross-border shopping. Bag of 25 o-rings; $1.50. Shipping to Canada; $6.90 lol Must be a gold-foil bag with a live escort.

But, I'll willingly pay the ransom for the convenience of eBay.

As for the Mazda dipstick, I can get that from a local dealership here in Calgary for around $9 USD ($12 CAD), and pick it up this Friday.

On the plus side, I've just been chatting with Thom from Cravenspeed. I've sent them the link to this thread since Mike provided an excellent mod walk through and measurements. They've committed to tell me when they have something available. So, depending upon what the gang from Cravenspeed says, I'll pull the pin on the handle purchase from them. Hopefully 124 Spider appropriate, or worst case scenario I'll have the parts to do the mod with the o-rings and mazda stick.
 

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I'm sure i still have a few o-rings I can send you...taped to the back of a postcard with a picture of the ocean and beach (LOL)...only a few pesos to mail. PM if you need or want.

I'd thought by now...Cravenspeed would have had it made...but I'm sure they have A LOT of projects in design.

aloha mike
 

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I'm sure i still have a few o-rings I can send you...taped to the back of a postcard with a picture of the ocean and beach (LOL)...only a few pesos to mail. PM if you need or want.

I'd thought by now...Cravenspeed would have had it made...but I'm sure they have A LOT of projects in design.

aloha mike
Thanks... I do appreciate the offer but already make the eBay purchase and they say they've shipped already. They'll go into parts bins in my shop along with the packages of 50 stainless steel bolts and fender washers tht I purchased to install my turbo blanket (mine didn't ship with hardware).

An ocean and beach postcard? I know you mean well, but that's just cruel. lol We're sitting marginally over 38F today, but in two days the wheels fall off the cart and we take a plummet to -32F for daytime highs for about a week or so. I don't even want to think about what the overnight temps will look like. But, even with that I can't complain, as most of the rest of Canada east of here is in a deep freeze, as is a lot of central and eastern continental US.

Back to topic at hand... when I engaged Cravenspeed using their chat window feature, the first response was that they were thinking about it. I then replied that from what I'd read, they said they were looking at it over 8 months ago. I then suggested it would be a good addition to their Spider accessories list, and they then asked for the link to the discussion. I passed on the URL for this thread and its now sitting with their development team. Still no firm understanding if they'll proceed or not, but since spring doesn't hit here till mid-May, I've got some time to wait. But a few months from now, I'll be in a position to get it done. It's merely a matter of which way it happens. I am hoping (optimistically) that they'll choose to produce a 124 Spider specific version of it

Enjoy the sunshine and warmth on behalf of those of us who won't see it for a while. :)
 

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Mike I still have some Red paint when I did the engine cover, but If I paint the rear caliper I will do the DIP STICK, after all Red one of the Italian flag color. LOL
 

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Alternate?

Uhm... given that the Fiat 500 uses the multi-valve like ours, couldn't we use the stick from there? Looking at the picks from the 500 Madness site, looks the same? At least its yellow and not PINK! The note says it's for non-turbo though, so IDK? Maybe levels are different. Just a thought.
 

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Uhm... given that the Fiat 500 uses the multi-valve like ours, couldn't we use the stick from there? Looking at the picks from the 500 Madness site, looks the same? At least its yellow and not PINK! The note says it's for non-turbo though, so IDK? Maybe levels are different. Just a thought.

Aloha @BadgerBob that’s a great idea. We need someone to buy it and try it. To be sure, of course.


I don’t think the turbo would make a difference but I do think that because the engine is rotated and the oil pan is different from the front wheel drive, that it would be different. Also, it looks like the handle portion is quite large so idk if it would fit under the hood of the 124.

Again great idea.

Aloha mike
 
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