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The list below came about after I went through the tortuous process of trying to find touch up paint for my Abarth 124 Spider in Costa Bravia 1972 Red (also known as Rosso Passione). It turns out that finding the correct paint for these cars isn't very easy. In my particular case, the code 'A7V' (which is written on the Mazda branded panel in the car) didn't seem to match any paint code in any database anywhere! Eventually, I managed to find the correct paint and the chip is now fixed. In the process of finding the correct pain I cam across a lot of useful information that I will try and consolidate and share with you all today.

Call for help: I'd like to continue to verify the information I have collected. Feel free to post the code from your car along with the 'branded' colour of your car in the comments below so that we can see if the pattern is consistent around the world.

Why is it so hard to identify the correct paint?

I think the collaborative development and manufacture of the 124 Spider is the cause of the strange paint codes. The process probably went something like this:


  1. Fiat develops the formulas for the 124 Spider paints and gives each formula a Fiat paint code (i.e. 123).
  2. Fiat gives Mazda a copy of those formulas so that Mazda can make the paint and apply it to the 124 Spider. In so doing, Mazda creates its own version of the paint and gives it a Mazda paint code (i.e. ABC).
  3. Mazda paints the car and labels it with the Mazda paint code (i.e. ABC).
  4. Fiat publishes its list of 124 Spider paint formulas but uses the Fiat paint code (i.e. 123).
I think the above makes sense. The paint code on the car (at least in Australia) is on a Mazda label and the format of the code seems to be consistent with published Mazda codes. It also makes sense that Mazda wouldn't include that code in their colour brochures as it doesn't apply to any of their vehicles. I am also confident that the colours are developed by Fiat because some of them are available on other Fiat vehicles. That and Fiat has published brochures that contain very clearly assign particular colour codes to the 124 Spider.

How do I find my paint code?

I have scoured the web for bits and pieces of information and have put together a table that cross references the different names for the same colour, the Fiat codes and the Mazda codes.

Key

Colour name variations
Colour code variations
Vehicle code variations


Codes

Rosso Passione | Passion Red | Costa Bravia 1972 Red | Solid Red
162/C/RKM 945843 | PR2 895A 895B
A7V


Bianco Gelato | Alpine White | Arctic White | Turini 1975 White | Solid White
163/C/RWE 945844 | PWV NWV 296A


Bronzo Magnetico | Metallic Bronze Metallic
201/B/RDF 945845 | PUL QUL 399B


Azzurro Italia Metallic | Pacific | Isola D-Elba 1974 Blue | Azure Metallic
208/B/RBI 945846 | KBP PBP 599



Grigio Argento Pearl | Glacier Silver Metallic | Aluminium Metallic | Portogallo 1974 Grey | Grey Metallic

235/B/RSL 945847 | PSN NSN 348B
PSL


Grigio Moda Metallic | Meteor Gray | Dark Gray Metallic
243/B/RA5 945848 | 243B
PA5 | 42A


Nero Vesuvio Metallic | Black Metallic
244/B/RXC 945849 | 876B


Bianco Ghiaccio Pearl | Arctic Pearl | Bianco Perla | Crystal White | Tri-Coat White
245/B/RW5 945850 | PWH KWH


Bronzo Magnetico Met Opaco | Titanium Flash Mica | Bronze Metallic
PUM 400C


Nero Cinema | Black | Jet Black | San Marino 1972 Black
PX8 601



Download

Download this list along with colour samples using the link below.

Download my full list of 124 Spider colour names and codes.

Disclaimer

I'm not 100% sure that all this information is correct or whether it will apply to all cars in all markets. However, I plan to update based on your feedback.
 

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Fantastic post - thanks.

I don't see the new 2018 colours

"Bleu Scuro" (PHB)
"Puro Bianco Perla" (PWW)
"Grigio Chiaro" (PSP)

Colour nerds... the white and silver are so close not sure why they bothered changing. Maybe "in the flesh" they look different or maybe formulation changes required it.
 

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What's missing is the paint code for the Heritage Abarth red mirror caps, lower grill trim, and tow hook cover. It is significantly different from the Rosso red and has a touch of orange in it. The lower grill takes lots of abuse and I'm sure that at one point I'll need touch-up paint.
 

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Very helpful! Can you clarify a bit more whether the multiple codes you list are all the same shade (Mazda A7V Rosso shows 2 different Fiat codes) or do they derive from the use of the same name with different shades on other models?
 

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What's missing is the paint code for the Heritage Abarth red mirror caps, lower grill trim, and tow hook cover. It is significantly different from the Rosso red and has a touch of orange in it. The lower grill takes lots of abuse and I'm sure that at one point I'll need touch-up paint.
Jim ...inside your mirror caps it says A 4 A, Mazda paint code for True Red. Stevelkinevil can perhaps confirm this with the rattle can color he had mixed.
 

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Very helpful! Can you clarify a bit more whether the multiple codes you list are all the same shade (Mazda A7V Rosso shows 2 different Fiat codes) or do they derive from the use of the same name with different shades on other models?
Yes of course! Basically I found the codes in two different brochures and each brochure contained multiple codes. I appreciate that I didn't make this clear in the original post. Is an admin able to unlock the post so I can continue to update it as we gather more information?

Using Rosso Passione as an example: I have written "162/C/RKM 945843 | PR2 895A 895B". What this means is that I found "162/C/RKM 945843" in booklet one and "PR2 895A 895B" in booklet two.

I do not know what the booklet one codes mean. However, I know that the the each of the three codes found in booklet two (i.e. PR2 895A and 895B) all returned the same formula when entered into my guy's paint database. That means it doesn't matter which of the three you use.
 

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Fantastic post - thanks.

I don't see the new 2018 colours

"Bleu Scuro" (PHB)
"Puro Bianco Perla" (PWW)
"Grigio Chiaro" (PSP)

Colour nerds... the white and silver are so close not sure why they bothered changing. Maybe "in the flesh" they look different or maybe formulation changes required it.
No problem. I didn't include them because I only had access to 2017 brochures. Thank you for providing them! Are the codes that you have listed the ones on the vehicles or the codes?
 

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Good stuff. Thanks for your time and effort.


Any suggestions on how/where to put this info to work and actually order touch up paint?
Sadly, I'm in need of Grigio Argento Pearl.
 

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Thanks for the effort!

Do you know the paint code for the dark gray details on the Abarths?
 

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Thanks for the effort!

Do you know the paint code for the dark gray details on the Abarths?
If you look carefully dark grey items (wheels, mirrors caps, windshield frame, etc...) on the Abarth is very dark bronze. For cost saving, I won't be surprised it's the same color as Bronze Magnetico on some US Lusso/Classica and Canadian Prima edition.
 

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Fiat/Abarth Paint Code Guide.

Those numbers are from the attached image.
Your attached image is for the 2018 colors. Is such a chart available for the 2017 124 Spider Abarth? The Equipment Listing based upon my VIN for my 2017 124A red has this comment: A-Pir/Header Trim - Gun Metallic. Would you guess that might be the same as the Bronze Magnetico (PDF) shown on your attached image?

Unfortunately, I already have a rock chip on the windshield trim and need to find some touch-up paint for correction of the blem.
 

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Those numbers are from the attached image.
Your attached image is for the 2018 colors. Is such a chart available for the 2017 124 Spider Abarth? The Equipment Listing based upon my VIN for my 2017 124A red has this comment: A-Pir/Header Trim - Gun Metallic. Would you guess that might be the same as the Bronze Magnetico (PDF) shown on your attached image?

Unfortunately, I already have a rock chip on the windshield trim and need to find some touch-up paint for correction of the blem.
Did you find the colour code for the grey mirror caps? Is it Bronze Magnetico? Thanks.
 

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Thanks for the effort!

Do you know the paint code for the dark gray details on the Abarths?
Still unresolved: does "Gun Metallic" = "Bronze Magnetico"?

Has anyone tried to touch-up curb rash on Abarth wheels?
 

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Still unresolved: does "Gun Metallic" = "Bronze Magnetico"?

Has anyone tried to touch-up curb rash on Abarth wheels?
I was parked side by side with a Bronzo Magnetico Canadian "Prima" 124 earlier this summer and closely look at this... and the colors are defenitly different sadly. The Bronzo Magnetico is slghtly lighter have more yellow/gold tint in it.
 

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I was parked side by side with a Bronzo Magnetico Canadian "Prima" 124 earlier this summer and closely look at this... and the colors are defenitly different sadly. The Bronzo Magnetico is slghtly lighter have more yellow/gold tint in it.
I agree. I've seen that color at the dealership and it is definitely warmer and lighter that the "Gun Metallic." "Gunmetal" is a charcoal/grey.
 

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Yes I think you?re right. There doesn?t seem to be an official Abarth trim code. I?ve tried to match some touch up paints to the mirror trims/windscreen bevel but have yet to find a match.
 

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I found this whole paint code search a bit confusing, so I decided to go to the horse's mouth and see what insight FCA could lend. After multiple back and forth inquiries (why?, I don't know) here is their response to those seeking Rosso touch up paint for a 2017 Classica.

"Here are the paint codes for your vehicle:
PR1 VR-111/A paint code;
Pin brush: 68262127AA
Spray: 68262128AA
This is the FIAT 500 paint code/part number however the Rosso (red) is

the same red, there may be a slight mismatch however this is the case

with most touch-up paints."

Take it as truth or not, but I'm tired of trying to negotiate with FCA to answer the simple, "What color (paint code) is my car?"
 
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