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Hi Everyone, I don't have my 124 yet, but I ordered one last October I should be getting it in May/June.

I ordered an Abarth in pearl white tricoat, the premium package with red/black leather, Bose, Sirius, etc. And Brembo brakes.

I own two FIATs now, my daily driver is a 2012 500 Pop with a 5 speed, and my wife's car is a 2014 500L with the DCT.

The 124 will be a summer car and will be garaged in the winter.

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I'm curious about your experience with your Fiat cars. As a brand Fiat has been knocked for a lack of reliability. Have you had more than the usual number of problems?
 

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I'm curious about your experience with your Fiat cars. As a brand Fiat has been knocked for a lack of reliability. Have you had more than the usual number of problems?
My 2012 500 lost an engine at around 30,000 miles. as I understand it, there was a problem with some of the 2012 500's where the starter was grounding and arcing through the main bearings. Fiat replaced it under warranty without any problems. They also replaced the A/C switch under warranty. Other than that, the car has been completely reliable. It has a 5 speed and is a blast to drive! I still look forward to driving it. My only complaint is that the cupholders suck. I am a sea kayaker, and I carry my 18' sea kayak on the roof of my 500 all over the Northeast Coast. I included a photo for your amusement. I have about 60,000 miles on the 500

The 2014 500L has the DCT and it is fully optioned. We have had no problems with anything and there has been no need for any warranty repairs. Fiat stopped using the DCT for the 2015+ model years. The typical American consumer couldn't figure out a DCT. Its too bad, I am really impressed with the DCT, the lightning fast shifts and the great fuel economy. DCT's can feel a little funny if you do something the computer isn't expecting, especially if you combine it with turbo lag. an example would be lifting off the throttle suddenly while accelerating, then immediately getting back on the throttle. You also cannot crawl in traffic with a DCT or you will burn up the clutches. If the 124 came with a DCT, I would seriously consider it. Ferrari, McLaren, and Lamborghini have all switched to DCT's exclusively. My only complaint about the 500L is the cupholders, it seems Fiat couldn't design good cupholders if their lives depended on it! we have about 14,000 miles on the 500L

We live in a world where cars are nothing but "4 wheel transportation appliances" so boring, uninspiring, and gray usually wins. The Automotive talking heads seem to dislike cars that are different, fun, funky, and stylish. I also think that the old "Fix It Again Tony" reputation plays a part as does the influence of Consumer Reports with the press.

I was a Consumer Reports Subscriber for many years before I finally canceled it because I hardly ever agreed with their reviews. Consumer Reports surveys their members about their cars for their ratings. So... The cars are being rated by people who are so anal, boring, and unimaginative that they won't even buy toilet paper without checking Consumer Reports first! I also think that their demographic is mostly older, white, and somewhat affluent. It really is no surprise to me that the soulless, uninspiring Toyota Camery and similar cars are their favorites...

My experience with Fiat cars and Fiat Studios has been completely positive... Which explains why I just ordered another one.

By the way, I am an Industrial Mechanic who works in the Power Generation industry. I don't work for Fiat and I don't work for a Fiat Studio.
 

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I'm curious about your experience with your Fiat cars. As a brand Fiat has been knocked for a lack of reliability. Have you had more than the usual number of problems?
My 124 was delivered September 2nd. Within the first 2,000 miles, it went back to the dealer 5 times for various issues, including a failed coil pack, a faulty thermostat, a loose bushing in the exhaust and the loose inner liner issue with the top. All were taken care of, of course, under warranty, but the 5 trips don't include the return trips for installing ordered parts. My previous more recent cars included 2 BMWs, two Fords (Mustang and Fusion Hybrid), and a VW Passat - none of which had any issues. (I did have a Pontiac Solstice that had its LSD replaced under warranty.) So - all those trips in 3 months do not really impress me with Fiat reliability. However, in the 3,500 miles since the initial repairs, I have had no problems.
 

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I also have a 500L! Mine is also a 2014 DDCT car. It has about 50k miles on it with zero issues, and that's with over 200hp. I even ran it twice at Fiat on the Dragon where it kept up with the 500 Abarths! I love my big L.

I agree with you 100% on the DDCT, it's great, and even better in the 4C. It's too bad a lot of drivers didn't understand it.

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Greg, I am not at all surprised that your 500L keeps up with 500 Abarths. The car is pretty fast even with the stock engine. (and it is the same engine as the Abarth) Have you done some suspension mods? Our 500L is an Easy with a nice soft comfortable ride... And quite a bit of body roll and understeer when you drive hard into the corners. Driving the 500 has given me a "spirited" driving style, sometimes I forget that I am driving the 500L... Until the car reminds me!
 

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Congrats on the order...if not the car quite yet :(

The problem with DCTs with that drivers treat them like automatics instead of recognising that they need to be driven with a "manual sensibility". Like you don't ride the clutch! For that reason, I think that DCTs are going to go the way of the dodo too (except maybe on very high end sports cars).

The latest crop of "true" 8/9/10 speed "torque converter" automatics just about match the DCT's for responsiveness/performance in "manual mode" while killing them for refinement and durability when being used as "an auto". The ZF auto that Jag and BMW use is a nicer gearbox than every "automated manual" I've ever tried...and that includes VAG's (whose DCTs are probably the best sorted and most refined), BMW's (on two M3s), Porsche's (on a Boxster), Alfa's (on a 4C...works okay but is still easily confused and can be unnecessarily brutal even in "Normal" mode) and Fiat's (the Fiat DuoLogic on the 500 probably being one of the worst DCTs I've ever used).

I'll still take a manual over the lot of them, but I could almost live with the latest crop of proper autos.
 

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welcome here!
Thanks for sharing picture of your 500 with Kayak, I lover it! (we carry "only "2 bicycle with our 500C).
We also own now 3 fiats for 2 driver (124, 500c and an old Panda AWD)
 

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Finally Got It!

10 months and 2 days after ordering the 124 Spider Abarth, I finally got it last Friday.

I drove it about 150 miles, smiling the whole time. I noticed that people on the side of the road look at the car trying to figure out what it is...

I managed to install the red lip and mirror caps, the fender badges, and a Abarth sticker over the Fiat steering wheel badge. I also clay bared the car and put one coat of Klassy all in one, more coats to follow.

I installed some of ameridan's tweaks as well, no more Fiat badge on the touch screen!

Now if I can figure out what to do with the engine cover...

A special thanks to ameridan for the help I got from his blog with the mirror cap installation, and everyone else who contributed to it.
 
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