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FWIW, when I had my old NC Miata factory fill was usually low across forum users.......I thought I remembered seeing this same issue on the ND Miata forum?

[EDIT] Miata ND Forum thread on low diff fluid: Rear diff oil level from factory

The Fiat 124 factory manual just says fill to capacity listed as 0.63 Quarts / 0.6 Liters.

Surprisingly, the Miata ND factory manual is a little different and states fill to the brim of the fill plug hole.

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How to Change Gear Oil/Differential Fluid


Overview:
This tutorial will walk you through the process of changing the gear oil/differential fluid on the 124 Spider.

A note regarding fluid selection:
According to Ameridian's blog, FCA recommends a 75W-90 GL-5 hypoid gear oil with FCA's multi-vehicle limited slip additive (for the Abarth). I called AMSOIL's technical team and they explained that our 75W-90 Severe Gear actually has limited slip friction modifiers already formulated in the gear oil, and that I don't need to add any extra. I already had some additive on hand, but decided not to use it. If you end up using something else, ensure that it already has limited slip friction modifiers formulated in the oil, or plan to purchase FCA's additive. If you have a Classica/Lusso, you don't have a limited slip differential, so you don't have to worry about the limited slip additive. Use whichever fluid you feel comfortable with; this thread is intended only to provide instruction on how to change the fluid.

I used AMSOIL's Sever Gear 75W-90 because it has exceptional extreme pressure protection, it runs cooler than most fluids, is already formulated for limited slip differentials, and is now available (as of August 1st 2018) in a package that makes filling easier than anything else on the market. You can find it here:

SEVERE GEAR® 75W-90

A note regarding service intervals:
I like to change gear oil often based on the ISO particle count oil analysis reports I've seen of gear oils and the effects silicon have on metallic wear. Silicon is a contaminant that enters the differential through the breather. This wear is typically out of range of a typical oil analysis report (5-15 microns) and will not show up on cheaper reports until it's too late. I like to change the fluid to get the abrasive silcon out before it causes wear.

Tools Required:
  • 23mm and 24mm sockets and ratchet
  • Shop towels
  • Torque wrench
  • Ramps/jack/jackstands
  • Oil pan

Part Required:
  • 1 Quart of 75W-90 Hypoid Gear Oil (see comment above). Actual fill spec is 0.63 quart/0.6 liter.
  • Optional: Replacement washers for the drain/fill plugs (Available on Amazon.com), part number 995-41-400 according to a thread on Miata.net. I generally replace these every other service or if I see one is damaged.

Procedure:
1. Lift the car securely and as level as possible. The differential is on the back. Note the location of the drain (blue) and fill (red) plugs.


2. Remove the fill plug first, and remove the drain plug only if the fill plug has been removed.


3. Clean the metal shavings off of the drain plug magnet. Reinstall the drain plug and torque to ~40N-m (official spec is 40-53 N-m).

4. If you're using the AMSIOL Easy-Pack, remove the nozzle, peel back the seal, cut the tip off of the nozzle, and screw the nozzle back on.

5. Fill the differential until fluid starts coming out. Wait for the fluid to stop dripping, and thread the fill plug back on. Note, keep your oil pan underneath while you're filling. I made a video of this one to show how easy it is.

6. Re-tighten the fill plug and torque to ~40N-m (official spec is 40-53 N-m).

Here's what my factory differential oil looked like at ~4700 miles.
Would you recommend adding a treatment to the manual gearbox if so witch one?
 

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Would you recommend adding a treatment to the manual gearbox if so witch one?
No, treatment or additive is not needed in the manual transmission.

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Hey question: Bought replacement washers for the drain fill plug on the LSD from the 124 forum post here but it turns out they don't fit my 124 spider! They are smaller than what was on my automatic 2017 124 Spider Abarth. I can't seem to find an alternative part out there, anyone know where I can buy the washers and if it's a different part number? This is what I bought: https://amzn.to/3aYlkRI
I notice the part number from the original post link is one number different. Link takes to part #
9956-41-400
but post lists it as: 995-41-400
 

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Xtreme Revolution,

I wish I had better recall for my source(s) for both the open and limited slip differential Gear Lube specs. Steve just pointed out in another forum that the Service Manual seems to indicate the the friction modifier additive is already included in the gear lube. I'm quite certain it is not, and I think the note “Additive is contained within the specified gear oil for the rear differential” is a misinterpretation of the fact that the additive is to be added to the MOPAR # 68333589AA gear oil, not that it is already mixed in.

Also, I call out "MOPAR # 68333589AA, or a 75W-90 SG1 (GL-5) Hypoid Gear Oil equivalent", yet the Mopar catalog shows to be a 75W-85 API GL-4 Hypoid Gear Oil. I'm hoping you can help clear this mess up.

 

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Hey question: Bought replacement washers for the drain fill plug on the LSD from the 124 forum post here but it turns out they don't fit my 124 spider! They are smaller than what was on my automatic 2017 124 Spider Abarth. I can't seem to find an alternative part out there, anyone know where I can buy the washers and if it's a different part number? This is what I bought: https://amzn.to/3aYlkRI
I notice the part number from the original post link is one number different. Link takes to part #
9956-41-400
but post lists it as: 995-41-400
The MOPAR part number is 68314601AA for the diff washers. I just changed my gear oil.
 

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Limited slip differential oil0.63 Quarts / 0.6 LitersMopar Long Life Limited Slip Additive for FIAT Spider*
* Additive is contained within the specified gear oil for the rear differential.

directly out of the workshop manual.
Also redline and Amsoil do not require additional additives when used in the limited slip type differentials.
 

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GL-5 oils are known to have additives, but my understanding is that GL-4 oils do not. You are right though - the manual implies that the additive is already there. Anyone have the spec sheet for MOPAR # 68333589AA ?
Correct that’s why gl5 is recommended for the rear end and gl4 for the gear box.
 

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GL-5 oils are known to have additives, but my understanding is that GL-4 oils do not. You are right though - the manual implies that the additive is already there. Anyone have the spec sheet for MOPAR # 68333589AA ?
According to my calipers 23.9mm OD, 18.3mm ID, 1.4mm thickness. 99.9% sure it is aluminum.
 

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I wanted to chime in on this series of posts. Tons of good technical info within these posts. I changed my diff fluid yesterday on my 2018 Abarth. Only 5900 miles on mine, but after five years there was a little bit of sludge on the magnetic drain plug. I used Royal Purple MaxGear 75-90 that has limited slip friction additive built in, so I didn't bother with the Mopar/FCA additive. Also, the specified capacity of .63 quart does not fill up to the fill hole. And yes, my car was perfectly level when I did this. Most of us were taught when adding new fluid to fill until it seeps out of the fill hole. Just be aware that if you do that with our Spider diffs you will be adding more than the specifications call for. Overfilling a diff is not really a bad thing like overfilling engine oil.
 
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