Hi, I had the same question and Greg from EC looked into it for me. The answer I got was "yes". I ddin't specifically ask if they uplift would be from 140 HP to approx 200, the same as it would for a US spec car, but I'm sure Greg will confirm on here.i'm asking this question in a new thread because i wanted it to be like a reference for european users. in here we don't have that much piggybacks and community like this. also our cars 20hp less than yours on stock. look how lamentably we are...
To clarify something here, Pogea Racing will never offer a piggy back solution for tuning. Pogea has taken the position that flash tunes are better and intends to stand by that. Currently Pogea can bench flash the 124 Spider with a nice road tune. This is definitely more of a commitment than plugging in a piggy back but the results are very worthwhile.Where do you live in Europe?
G-tech Engineering (Germany) will publish their PiggyBack in the near future.
(They have reached about 205hp (EWG 80/1269 corrected on the 4wheel dyno) on their first tests)
And I think PogeaRacing will offer PiggyBacks for the over seas market.
Very soon, we will have a comparison between stock baseline, piggy back and Pogea Tune in SAE measurements from an all wheel dyno that measures our cars properly. We already have the first two measurements (stock and Piggy) and the numbers look consistent with what we expected. What is good to see is the curves and how the power is delivered between the three.To compare with North American dyno numbers you will need to get SAE dyno calibration numbers. No one in North America speaks "EWG 80/1269".
I expect the same dyno can output the numbers in either format if you ask for it. North America being North America I doubt the local dynos will have anything other than SAE installed unless the operator specifically asked for it... but I'm speculating.
There are a couple of different SAE standards, one of which is the most used, which escapes my brain pan at the moment. Some googling for the truly interested should be able to scare it up.
A lot of people seem to want to comment on this to try and sway you to one product or another. I will simply answer the question.i'm asking this question in a new thread because i wanted it to be like a reference for european users. in here we don't have that much piggybacks and community like this. also our cars 20hp less than yours on stock. look how lamentably we are...
that was really illuminating. but that also means we have to keep searching for euro spec tune options.All current piggy backs are "additive products" That means the boxes add a certain amount of boost to the stock figures. So on the 124, if a box adds 3psi to the stock value of about 21, you will have about 24 pounds of boost. However adding 3psi to a Euro 124's 15 will only give 18. So which it will work, and the car will be faster, it won't be as fast as a Euro Abarth or a US spec 124 or Abarth.
I hope that helps.
Pretty certain SAE, need to compare like to like for comparison/marketing purposes, plus the past "kerfuffles" of auto manufacturers getting nailed with incorrect dyno numbers in their marketing materials probably would incline them to do things properly per market.Are the FIAT power figures in the US SAE or EWG?
Respectfully, I would rather not detail which piggy back it is. The point is for our own comparison. Honestly, at this point, we do not know if the tune will off substantially better numbers on the dyno or not. It feels better on the butt dyno but you know how that goes.Btw. from which pickyback are you talking, what would you like to compare?
If Pogea is going to perform an SAE measurement, it is even better.