I would have a hard time choosing between KW and RSR.
Greg
Greg
Let�s talk coilovers!
Let’s talk coilovers!
Let’s talk coilovers! I have nothing to offer since I have not used them for years. But, they made a HUGE difference years ago on my GTI. I want to hear your thoughts, recommendations, etc etc.
The ones that pop up are:
- Ohlins $2,169
- RSR $1,799
- Feal 441 $1,399
- Feal Road Race 441 $1,599
- Cusco Street Zero A $1,499
- Cusco Sport Zero 3S $1,949
- Cusco Street Zero $1,200
- ST XTA $1,380
- KW Clubsport $3,430
- KW Variant 3 $2,550
- ST X Coil-Over $934
- ST XTA $1,386
- Autoexe Kijima Spec Street $1,749
- Intergral Kobe Master Spec Type R $3,599
- Intergral Kobe Master Spec Type S $3,399
- Joyfast Aragosta $3,349
- Knight Sports $1,999
- LegSport Club Sport $3,599
- SuperMiata ND XIDA $2,149-$2,400
Whew! Those can get pricey!! Feal seems to get good reviews, at a price that is easier to swallow. Anyway, let’er rip!
Let’s talk coilovers! I have nothing to offer since I have not used them for years. But, they made a HUGE difference years ago on my GTI. I want to hear your thoughts, recommendations, etc etc.
The ones that pop up are:
- Ohlins $2,169
- RSR $1,799
- Feal 441 $1,399
- Feal Road Race 441 $1,599
- Cusco Street Zero A $1,499
- Cusco Sport Zero 3S $1,949
- Cusco Street Zero $1,200
- ST XTA $1,380
- KW Clubsport $3,430
- KW Variant 3 $2,550
- ST X Coil-Over $934
- ST XTA $1,386
- Autoexe Kijima Spec Street $1,749
- Intergral Kobe Master Spec Type R $3,599
- Intergral Kobe Master Spec Type S $3,399
- Joyfast Aragosta $3,349
- Knight Sports $1,999
- LegSport Club Sport $3,599
- SuperMiata ND XIDA $2,149-$2,400
Whew! Those can get pricey!! Feal seems to get good reviews, at a price that is easier to swallow. Anyway, let’er rip!
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Only experience with KW & Ohlins (not on this car though). Both impressive.
I ordered Stance coilovers from TF-Works/Togue Factory and they should be here by next week. I have them on my 240sx, had them on my BRZ, and my brother has them on his STI so I went ahead and purchased them since I had experience with them.
I've yet to see anyone admit to regret spending $995 on MeisterR ZetaCRD's on the Miata forums. I've been considering making the leap.
There's also Fat Cat Motorsports which is not an off the shelf piece built to the common denominator but customized to suit your specific application and goals.
http://www.fatcatmotorsports.com/FCM_Elite_projects.htm
http://www.fatcatmotorsports.com/FCM_Elite_projects.htm
As I know, MeisterR are build in the same factory in Taiwan as BC, kSport, D1...
Price is good and they work well on the light cars, but I always try to stick to stuff which was made in Japan, Europe or the states.
Bilstein introduced the new range for the MX5 and soon it will be also available for the 124Spider
Price is good and they work well on the light cars, but I always try to stick to stuff which was made in Japan, Europe or the states.
Bilstein introduced the new range for the MX5 and soon it will be also available for the 124Spider
Already got Bilsteins LOLBilstein introduced the new range for the MX5 and soon it will be also available for the 124Spider
You forgot the Flyin' Miata Fox units $2,049 
I'm leaning towards these with the street spring optionYou forgot the Flyin' Miata Fox units $2,049
Be shure that you get a low rated springs. KW/ST use a springrate 40Nm (linear) in front and rear.
Be shure that you get a low rated springs. KW/ST use a springrate 40Nm (linear) in front and rear.
Thanks, will do. For everyone's info the Fox spring rate options are;
Sport set - 400 lb/in (70 N/mm) front springs and 225 lb/in (40 N/mm) rear springs
Track set - 600 lb/in (105 N/mm) front springs and 350 lb/in (61 N/mm) rear springs
Some technical informations about coilovers from KW http://blog-int.kwautomotive.net/the-special-thing-about-kw-coilovers-a-closer-look/
Q&A
http://blog-int.kwautomotive.net/ask-the-experts-kw-on-speedhunters-com-2/
Q&A
http://blog-int.kwautomotive.net/ask-the-experts-kw-on-speedhunters-com-2/
Would be nice if we had an index of make/model and level of adjustability (1, 1.5, 2+ and range).
Right now I'm interested in the Ohlins, KW, and Xidas. Haven't seen much talk about Flyin' Miatas Fox based coilover.
Right now I'm interested in the Ohlins, KW, and Xidas. Haven't seen much talk about Flyin' Miatas Fox based coilover.
Reece I'll post up the adjustability specs as soon as I hear back from FM's. In the mean time check out the comments made about the Fox coilovers on their 520hp V8 ND. Very promising considering the extra weight in the car and that ridiculous power figureWould be nice if we had an index of make/model and level of adjustability (1, 1.5, 2+ and range).
Right now I'm interested in the Ohlins, KW, and Xidas. Haven't seen much talk about Flyin' Miatas Fox based coilover.
https://www.flyinmiata.com/flyin-miata-fox-suspension-for-nd-chassis.html
Ok Mike from FM has been very helpful and has passed on the following additional information on the Fox Sport coilovers;
[FONT="] [FONT="]we recommend 13.5” front and 13” rear, as measured from the center of the wheel to the fender lip), there’s enough range with the factory adjustments to get good alignment numbers.[/FONT]
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Thanks Mike, At those suggested ride heights, what would you say the maximum factory camber and castor figures that could be achieved?
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[FONT="] [FONT="]You should be able to reach about 1.8° to 2.0° negative camber and 7.5° of caster in the front. You should also be able to get at least as much camber in the rear, though the NDs/124s don’t want too much rear camber to start with.[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT="][FONT="]One last question how heavy are each corner? [/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="][FONT="]Hi Anthony,[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT="] [FONT="] [/FONT]
[FONT="]Our FOX suspension for the ND/124 weighs in at just a touch over 7 lbs for each corner (shock, springs, bump stop, hardware, no upper mount).[/FONT]
Hope that helps everyone interested.
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[FONT="] [FONT="]we recommend 13.5” front and 13” rear, as measured from the center of the wheel to the fender lip), there’s enough range with the factory adjustments to get good alignment numbers.[/FONT]
[FONT="] [/FONT]
Thanks Mike, At those suggested ride heights, what would you say the maximum factory camber and castor figures that could be achieved?
[/FONT]
[FONT="] [FONT="]You should be able to reach about 1.8° to 2.0° negative camber and 7.5° of caster in the front. You should also be able to get at least as much camber in the rear, though the NDs/124s don’t want too much rear camber to start with.[/FONT]
[FONT="] [/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT="][FONT="]One last question how heavy are each corner? [/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="][FONT="]Hi Anthony,[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT="] [FONT="] [/FONT]
[FONT="]Our FOX suspension for the ND/124 weighs in at just a touch over 7 lbs for each corner (shock, springs, bump stop, hardware, no upper mount).[/FONT]
Hope that helps everyone interested.
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So 2.0+º camber is not attainable or just not in the range they recommend for normal users?
In terms of adjustability, the FM site doesn't really say. Reading the instruction manual it appears to be only a 1-way adjustable damper (1.5?).
I've been looking at the Xidas lately. They are upgradable to double and triple adjustable.
In terms of adjustability, the FM site doesn't really say. Reading the instruction manual it appears to be only a 1-way adjustable damper (1.5?).
I've been looking at the Xidas lately. They are upgradable to double and triple adjustable.
Sorry I left out one of my first email questions to them. They are height and damper adjustable only. So the maximum camber and castor figures quoted above are achieved through a normal wheel alignment process.So 2.0+º camber is not attainable or just not in the range they recommend for normal users?
In terms of adjustability, the FM site doesn't really say. Reading the instruction manual it appears to be only a 1-way adjustable damper (1.5?).
I've been looking at the Xidas lately. They are upgradable to double and triple adjustable.
The recommended alignment figures they quote for their NC are;
The ND has a very different suspension design, and combined with the electrically assisted steering, demands different numbers. We're still fine-tuning our recommendations, but here's our initial setup.
Front
Caster: 8.0 degrees (basically, as much as possible)
Camber: 1.8 degrees negative (again, as much as possible)
Toe-in: 1/16", 0.15° or 9 arcminutes total (1/32", 0.075° or 4.5 minutes per side)
Caster: 8.0 degrees (basically, as much as possible)
Camber: 1.8 degrees negative (again, as much as possible)
Toe-in: 1/16", 0.15° or 9 arcminutes total (1/32", 0.075° or 4.5 minutes per side)
Rear
Camber: 1.8 degrees negative (matching the front)
Toe-in: 1/16", 0.15° or 9 arcminutes total (1/32", 0.075° or 4.5 minutes per side)
Camber: 1.8 degrees negative (matching the front)
Toe-in: 1/16", 0.15° or 9 arcminutes total (1/32", 0.075° or 4.5 minutes per side)
at these recommended ride heights;
[FONT="]13.5” front and 13” rear, as measured from the center of the wheel to the fender lip[/FONT]
Fiat 124....now on our OHLINS Coilovers!
Ready for Autocross Fun this Weekend!
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Shown here with our Bronze 6UL wheels 17x9 with 255/35 tires.
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