[stevenvillatoro]

On Miatas that bundle a limited-slip differential (LSD) in a package, the LSD is deleted, i.e., not available, for any car with automatic transmission. In other words, if you want the LSD, you must order a manual transmission.

I haven't seen any transmission-dependent exclusionary language in 124 Spider Abarth literature, and I've been thoroughly trying to verify that the automatic transmission – in addition to the manual transmission – will come with the LSD. It appears that both transmissions will get the LSD – that'd be great.

And if true, then score another point for Fiat.

 

[Greg]

That's a great question, unfortunately I have no idea what the answer is. We may have to wait until the cars show up to actually find out.

Greg

 

[CXXIV]

Can you tell just by looking at it? Here are a few photos of a 2017 124 Abarth with an automatic transmission.

These Australian reviews say that their automatic does get the LSD:

http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-reviews/abarth-124-spider-first-drive-review-20161018-gs5aq6.html

https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/reviews/1610/abarth-124-spider-review

 

[kpoling]

Can you tell just by looking at it? Here are a few photos of a 2017 124 Abarth with an automatic transmission.

These Australian reviews say that their automatic does get the LSD:

http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-reviews/abarth-124-spider-first-drive-review-20161018-gs5aq6.html

https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/reviews/1610/abarth-124-spider-review

CXX - those comments were from before the Abarth versions of the car were available (last September). It's pretty well established at this point that AT and MT cars both get the LSD in the Abarth version. It states it on the sticker also.

 

[CXXIV]

The slight hedge in your response suggests there’s still value in confirming this. Would you post a link to a thread with more affirmative information? Or take a look at the photos and your diff and give us a data point?

I think the question was about the doubt raised by Mazda not offering the LSD with an automatic, as though there might be some (hard to imagine) incompatibility. Because it seems counter to the idea of the Club spec level to withhold the LSD just to penalize those who opt for the automatic. Still, their sticker is clear, only saying “LIMITED-SLIP DIFFERENTIAL” on their manual cars. Our Abarth stickers leave room for interpretation or omission, saying:

STANDARD EQUIPMENT (UNLESS REPLACED BY OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT) […] Limited Slip Differential and Rear Axle […] OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT (May Replace Standard Equipment) […] 6-Speed AISIN Automatic RWD Transmission

…and the optional equipment listed with the automatic not mentioning a differential. Might FIAT have considered the “RWD” part of the Automatic Transmission to include the differential? I didn’t read it that way and expect the Abarth automatic to have the LSD. But stevenvillatoro’s well-researched question was unanswered and the top (and only relevant) result when searching this forum with the words "automatic" and "differential".

 

[kpoling]

The slight hedge in your response suggests there’s still value in confirming this. Would you post a link to a thread with more affirmative information? Or take a look at the photos and your diff and give us a data point?

I think the question was about the doubt raised by Mazda not offering the LSD with an automatic, as though there might be some (hard to imagine) incompatibility. Because it seems counter to the idea of the Club spec level to withhold the LSD just to penalize those who opt for the automatic. Still, their sticker is clear, only saying “LIMITED-SLIP DIFFERENTIAL” on their manual cars. Our Abarth stickers leave room for interpretation or omission, saying:

STANDARD EQUIPMENT (UNLESS REPLACED BY OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT) […] Limited Slip Differential and Rear Axle […] OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT (May Replace Standard Equipment) […] 6-Speed AISIN Automatic RWD Transmission

…and the optional equipment listed with the automatic not mentioning a differential. Might FIAT have considered the “RWD” part of the Automatic Transmission to include the differential? I didn’t read it that way and expect the Abarth automatic to have the LSD. But stevenvillatoro’s well-researched question was unanswered and the top (and only relevant) result when searching this forum with the words "automatic" and "differential".

I see what you mean. The building tool says it comes with the LSD. I drive a Lusso so can't check my own car but our Fiat's don't use the same transmissions in any case. Ours are from the previous generation so what Mazda does on the current model doesn't necessarily carry over.

 

[Unknownsir]

I looked at an auto trans Abarth vehicle option list and it does state LSD

 

[CXXIV]

Thanks for contributing that--I hadn't seen something like it before. Does that car have physical switches for "JR1S DRL Off Switch" and "CGZS Passenger Air Bag On/Off Switch"? I don't think mine does, I've only found an option in the settings menu and that lower console indicator lamp, respectively.

 

[Robtec]

My auto Abarth has the LSD listed on the window sticker.

 

[kpoling]

The fine print on the window stickers says unless replaced by optional equipment. That's where his question came from. But the actual build list is clear.

My auto Abarth has the LSD listed on the window sticker.

 

[Robtec]

I also have my build list and LSD is on it too..

 

[56S]

One of the reasons I bought the Abarth was the LSD. My driveway averages 20% grade, is packed limestone and 400' long. The Abarth claws right up better than our AWD Element.

 

[Lord_GalAthon]

One of the reasons I bought the Abarth was the LSD. My driveway averages 20% grade, is packed limestone and 400' long. The Abarth claws right up better than our AWD Element.

So it bodes well when I'll drift it/winter drive it in snow. 0