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According to the manual it says every 10k kilometers. today I was at the dealer and they told me they put pure synthetic oil which comes out $150.00 Can for an oil change. Do you guys use pure synthetic or blend synthetic oil. tia
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According to the manual it says every 10k kilometers. today I was at the dealer and they told me they put pure synthetic oil which comes out $150.00 Can for an oil change. Do you guys use pure synthetic or blend synthetic oil. tia
Buy your own syn. oil anywhere for less than $10.00 us/qt. Shop around. Oil+filter,+labor should be cheaper than $150.00 . Use syn. oil only in your baby, don't cut corners.
I had the dealer do an oil/filter change at 4000 miles. $54- total, using the factory spec oil.
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I've only got about 1000 miles on my Spider so far, so no oil change yet. But, I picked up a Mann filter kit and 4 qts of the Pennzoil factory recommended oil for about $45 from Amazon Prime.
Just picked up our new Abarth yesterday, aluminum ...have not read the manual yet, so will ask ...what brand of oil filter are you guys buying and model number...tia. S
I had the dealer do an oil/filter change at 4000 miles. $54- total, using the factory spec oil.
At that price there is no way I'd change my own oil. Somewhere today I was reading about a do-it-yourself person having to jack the car up a couple of times, remove the skid plate metal shroud, struggle with removing the filter, etc.

Fine if you enjoy it, as some do. I loved changing oil as a teen, but it went away from me.
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According to the manual it says every 10k kilometers. today I was at the dealer and they told me they put pure synthetic oil which comes out $150.00 Can for an oil change. Do you guys use pure synthetic or blend synthetic oil. tia
Gee....does anybody use anything other than Fully Synthetic these days? Especially in a new car?
Gee....does anybody use anything other than Fully Synthetic these days? Especially in a new car?
I use Shell Rotella T6 in my Alfa Spider, and will use it in the Lusso. It is only $23 per gallon. It is highly recommended on the Alfa forum.

Has anyone else used this oil?
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At that price there is no way I'd change my own oil. Somewhere today I was reading about a do-it-yourself person having to jack the car up a couple of times, remove the skid plate metal shroud, struggle with removing the filter, etc.

Fine if you enjoy it, as some do. I loved changing oil as a teen, but it went away from me.
I do almost all my own work and have for 45 years but I don't necessarily enjoy it anymore. Just that I have had so many vehicles overfilled, drain plugs loose, filters loose and assorted scratches with oil changes in the past that I do it myself. Most dealerships do not have a mechanic changing oil...it is too costly. Not saying that's a bad thing but some of these people changing oil do not understand the importance of what they are doing and the only thing they are concerned about is getting your car out as quick as possible. This is when problems occur. Not trying to stir up trouble...just my experience. If you find someone you trust more power to you...go for it. Happy motoring. By the way $54 is a great price for an oil change on this car. ;)
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I do almost all my own work and have for 45 years but I don't necessarily enjoy it anymore. Just that I have had so many vehicles overfilled, drain plugs loose, filters loose and assorted scratches with oil changes in the past that I do it myself. Most dealerships do not have a mechanic changing oil...it is too costly. Not saying that's a bad thing but some of these people changing oil do not understand the importance of what they are doing and the only thing they are concerned about is getting your car out as quick as possible. This is when problems occur. Not trying to stir up trouble...just my experience. If you find someone you trust more power to you...go for it. Happy motoring. By the way $54 is a great price for an oil change on this car. ;)
I had a Mazda 626 years ago that came with a free oil change at the first service interval. On the way home, I started smelling burning oil. When I pulled over to the side of the road, I found that the oil filler cap was missing. Bad things can happen when you don't do it yourself, or at least check that it was done correctly.

Nowadays, I have my oil changed by "professionals." However, I check to see that the oil level and color are correct, that the filter is new and secure, and that the oil filler cap is secure, before I drive away. It bugs the crap out of them:D
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I had a Mazda 626 years ago that came with a free oil change at the first service interval. On the way home, I started smelling burning oil. When I pulled over to the side of the road, I found that the oil filler cap was missing. Bad things can happen when you don't do it yourself, or at least check that it was done correctly.

Nowadays, I have my oil changed by "professionals." However, I check to see that the oil level and color are correct, that the filter is new and secure, and that the oil filler cap is secure, before I drive away. It bugs the crap out of them:D
I'll give you one worse than that....in 1980 I had the oil changed in my 1979 Buick. Drove it home...parked in the garage. Got up the next morning and almost 5 quarts of oil on the garage floor. They overfilled it and it blew the rear seal completely out. They had to tow the car and repair it at their cost. If you have it done by someone else...like John says...check these things before you leave. They may not like it but it may save your car in the end.;)
For the past 30 years, I have done all of the work on my cars and motorcycles, and I have kept them going well past their planned obsolescence. I have done about 100 oil changes in my life and never had a problem. My engines look clean inside, even in the 323i with 215,000 miles. However, I am getting a bit stiff with age, and I no longer enjoy doing the work.
With my Abarth,I got lifetime free oil changes, but I am torn. The only time that I had an oil change done by a dealer, I got a stripped drain plug. Since I only found the problem when I did the following oil change, the dealer refused to take responsibility, stating that I could have stripped it myself. Then there's the worry about what oil they use, whether they drain it well through the drain hole rather than the top, etc. etc...
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For the past 30 years, I have done all of the work on my cars and motorcycles, and I have kept them going well past their planned obsolescence. I have done about 100 oil changes in my life and never had a problem. My engines look clean inside, even in the 323i with 215,000 miles. However, I am getting a bit stiff with age, and I no longer enjoy doing the work.
With my Abarth,I got lifetime free oil changes, but I am torn. The only time that I had an oil change done by a dealer, I got a stripped drain plug. Since I only found the problem when I did the following oil change, the dealer refused to take responsibility, stating that I could have stripped it myself. Then there's the worry about what oil they use, whether they drain it well through the drain hole rather than the top, etc. etc...
When I bought my '87 Alfa Spider a few years ago, it leaked a little oil. Knowing Alfas, I thought very little of it. When I changed the oil, I found that the metal gasket on the drain plug was missing. It no longer leaks.0:)
For the past 30 years, I have done all of the work on my cars and motorcycles, and I have kept them going well past their planned obsolescence. I have done about 100 oil changes in my life and never had a problem. My engines look clean inside, even in the 323i with 215,000 miles. However, I am getting a bit stiff with age, and I no longer enjoy doing the work.
With my Abarth,I got lifetime free oil changes, but I am torn. The only time that I had an oil change done by a dealer, I got a stripped drain plug. Since I only found the problem when I did the following oil change, the dealer refused to take responsibility, stating that I could have stripped it myself. Then there's the worry about what oil they use, whether they drain it well through the drain hole rather than the top, etc. etc...
That often scares me as well. Sucks that they stripped the drain plug though, were they able to helicoil it? That's real crappy of them not to take responsibility.

I change drain plug washers every oil change and drain plug every 2 oil changes.. just force of habit to be honest
The 124 Abarth that I ordered isn't in yet, But I do have a 500 and 500L that I do the oil changes on. Both cars have the same 1.4L Multiair engine as the 124. The manuals for both cars specify oil that meets Chrysler Material Standard MS 6395. Only Pennzoil products say they meet this on the label, I haven't found any others. I use either Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra. I also use the Mopar Filters.

Is this important? The engine in my 2012 Fiat 500 went south at around 30,000 miles, FIAT changed the engine under warranty without question, but it got me thinking about the oil. At the time, I was having the oil changed at whatever local garage could fit me in and I have no idea what brand of oil they were using. The nearest FIAT dealer is an hour and a half away. FIAT could have taken the position that they were not responsible because I wasn't using oil that met their specs... they didn't do that, but they could have.

I now change the oil myself so I can ensure that the right oil and a quality filter are being used. Before the engine went, I had an experience where the oil change guy put the filter in upside down and tightened the cover, breaking the bypass valve. I didn't find it until the next oil change. I replaced the cover and bought a spare to keep in the car just in case. Now I do my own oil changes.
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I use Rotella T6 in all my vehicles including my motorcycles. It is JASO rated so can even use it in Japanese bikes with wet clutches. $21 bucks a gallon at Wal-Mart
The Chrysler standard requires a two year test. Not all manufacturers have completed the latest version of that test and therefore are not putting that standard on their label. Imho, Shell Rotella T6 is as good as it gets in a 5w-40 synthetic.
The 124 Abarth that I ordered isn't in yet, But I do have a 500 and 500L that I do the oil changes on. Both cars have the same 1.4L Multiair engine as the 124. The manuals for both cars specify oil that meets Chrysler Material Standard MS 6395. Only Pennzoil products say they meet this on the label, I haven't found any others. I use either Pennzoil Platinum or Pennzoil Ultra. I also use the Mopar Filters.

Is this important? The engine in my 2012 Fiat 500 went south at around 30,000 miles, FIAT changed the engine under warranty without question, but it got me thinking about the oil. At the time, I was having the oil changed at whatever local garage could fit me in and I have no idea what brand of oil they were using. The nearest FIAT dealer is an hour and a half away. FIAT could have taken the position that they were not responsible because I wasn't using oil that met their specs... they didn't do that, but they could have.

I now change the oil myself so I can ensure that the right oil and a quality filter are being used. Before the engine went, I had an experience where the oil change guy put the filter in upside down and tightened the cover, breaking the bypass valve. I didn't find it until the next oil change. I replaced the cover and bought a spare to keep in the car just in case. Now I do my own oil changes.
Here's an interesting bit. Seems dealers only carry two 5w-40 synthetics:
https://www.dealers-mopar.com/chemical/action/guide/en_US/ENGINE+OILS/
is anyone here considering going with Motul oil? Or any similar high end brand of oil?

since it is the life of our engine and the most important and affordable thing it can't hurt to spend an extra few dollars every change!

some guys I know swear by Motul.
Pennzoil and Shell Rotella... Don't get me wrong, I am sure that other oils are fine, perhaps even superior, but i am going to stick with oils that are labeled MS 6395. If I loose another engine, I don't want there to be any questions about engine oil. Its not that I believe that I am likely to loose another engine, I bought the 500L the day the service manager told me they need to replace the engine in my 500, and I have since ordered the 124. The Pennzoil product is fine and I am not opposed to using it, so I will just keep using it. I know that it meets FIAT's specs, so all is well...
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