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I absolutely adore the Alfa 4C, it just looks so amazing and nimble. I see one almost every day around my workplace and I always take a minute or two to just stand there and gaze at it!
 

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I've driven 3 4Cs. One for a whole weekend. I wanted to like this car so much. I wanted one. I have to say it's one of the most disappointing cars I've ever driven. At HALF the price here in Australia, the Abarth is by far the more honest car.
 

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I bet we could drop that 4C's engine into the 124 pretty easily :D
...but oh what a price tag on the swap...
Would not be easy to pull one out of a 4C and drop it in an Abarth, but a 4C engined Abarth 124 is essentially what the Rally version is.
 

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I had a 4c coupe but traded after a year for the 124. It was a blast to drive but as a daily driver just wasn't for me. But what a car!!! Like the elises I had but far better built!!



 

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I really liked the (exterior) look of the C4, and the soft top is interesting. But have to say that after sitting in the C4, the day I bought my 124, I was not impressed with the interior. And in fact, felt even better about buying the 124 as its interior is something I really, really like. With the C4 the instruments and controls seemed both aged (like something from the 80's) and also as if it was trying too hard with the digital stuff in the main cluster.

IMO Fiat/Mazda got things right with the 124/Miata cockpit.
 

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I'm a small guy (5'8 180) and had no problem with the 4C, Ironically I ended up with my Abarth 124 because my son and I wanted to see a Giulia, and look at a 4C again. Then I saw the spider and loved the look but laughed it off as not having enough power, Then i drove it. Long story short bought my first new car ever, and it took 42 yrs as I never deemed one worth the loss when I could buy a better used car for less. But the heart wants what the heart wants I suppose.
 

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I have both a 124 and a 4C at my shop almost every day. I own the 124 and my son in law owns the 4C. We make stuff for both. I love both these cars, each has it's pluses and minuses.

From a pure performance standpoint, it's the 4C all the way. The 4C's engine is essentially an exotic car engine, just in 4 cylinder form. It's transmission is a robotized dual dry clutch unit that's just incredible. Add in the fact that is has a carbon fiber tub and is mid engine, and it's just too much for the 124 to match up with. However, a really well modded 124 could get into the same ballpark in terms of performance with a stock 4C. Then again, it's pretty easy to mod the 4C to get it out of reach of any realistic 124.

Where the 124 has a big advantage is in practicality. You and another person can take a long trip in the 124 and be reasonably comfy. It's no luxury car, but if you are under 6 feet tall, it's just fine. It has a decent trunk, so you can take a normal amount of luggage for two people. In the 4C your luggage space is incredibly small, it's just not set up for long trips.

Of course the 124 is a lot less expensive, and you can get it with a conventional stick shift, which some people like. In many ways the 124 is just as fun as the 4C, yet more practical, but the 4C is ultimately in another league in terms of performance.

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Of course the irony of this conversation is that the CF car was initially earmarked as a specialist Abarth and the Mazda convertible was supposed to a new, modern day Alfa Romeo Duetto. I sorta think that would have been a better outcome
 

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Of course the irony of this conversation is that the CF car was initially earmarked as a specialist Abarth and the Mazda convertible was supposed to a new, modern day Alfa Romeo Duetto. I sorta think that would have been a better outcome
Probably agree. The 4C had the potential to be a great car but Alfa nearly got there and, in typical Alfa fashion, decided that'll do...let's have lunch. And what we got was an unresolved, underdeveloped car with steering and chassis issues that Alfa have shown no subsequent desire to resolve. The car is dead. Finished. They are now counting down to pulling the pulling the pin on it in 2020 when it will be "replaced" with a new 6-Series rival :rolleyes: based on the Giulia. Pity.
 

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Probably agree. The 4C had the potential to be a great car but Alfa nearly got there and, in typical Alfa fashion, decided that'll do...let's have lunch. And what we got was an unresolved, underdeveloped car with steering and chassis issues that Alfa have shown no subsequent desire to resolve. The car is dead. Finished. They are now counting down to pulling the pulling the pin on it in 2020 when it will be "replaced" with a new 6-Series rival :rolleyes: based on the Giulia. Pity.
This. Sure it is fast. And has a carbon fiber tub. And a sequential shifter. And big brakes. And it looks pretty nice.

But it has a dead spot in the center of the steering. The transmission hunts for gears and is slow to react. The throttle is more like a switch. And the brakes are on or off. It lack the fluidity my Lotus Elise had. I have more fun driving the 124.

Outright speed is great, but not at the sacrifice of driving dynamics and linear response. It really doesn't deliver on what it is advertising. Especially at the price. At least not for what I like. It does have a lot of character though. Which is really due to its quirks. I like it. I don't love it.

The 500hp Quadrifoglio sitting to my right however is an amazing car. They nailed it with this one.
 

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Agree. They seem to have got the Giulia right. Only took them 25 years to build another good car LOL. And yes, the Elise is a much nicer car to drive than the overrated 4C.

Yep...we give Alfa latitude and dismiss their failings as "quirks" because we want their cars to be good. Liking Alfa's is like supporting Richmond in the AFL (or insert your football code and longstanding losing team). They give the odd glimmer of hope but never quite make the final.
 

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I really liked the (exterior) look of the C4, and the soft top is interesting. But have to say that after sitting in the C4, the day I bought my 124, I was not impressed with the interior. And in fact, felt even better about buying the 124 as its interior is something I really, really like. With the C4 the instruments and controls seemed both aged (like something from the 80's) and also as if it was trying too hard with the digital stuff in the main cluster.

IMO Fiat/Mazda got things right with the 124/Miata cockpit.
4C... My dyslexia was acting up again! :nerd:

(BTW how long does the post edit feature remain before disappearing?)
 
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