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We are releasing self tuning software for the Euro+Drive Lite, and best of all, IT'S INCLUDED AT NO EXTRA CHARGE. Euro+Drive Lite customers will have access to it through the Euro+Drive Portal.

Now I know this isn't for everybody, for almost all users out there, our two pre-made maps will be plenty, but some of you will want more control, so we are giving it to you. I think this is a much better option than the handheld module we were going to release because this can do more, and it's free!

This will do a number of things. Users can easily switch from the Dynamic to the Race maps. Or, if an owner wants more than the Race map gives, they can turn it up. If they want something in between Dynamic and Race, no problem, that can be done. It's important to understand, this isn't simple map switching software, it's actual tuning software, it's simplified, and doesn't have full capability, but it's quite powerful stuff nonetheless.

Owners will be able to use maps developed by other users. I think this is important as there is some pretty good collective knowledge in the Fiat community. Users can even put on maps for other cars should they decide to move their Euro+Drive Lite over to another supported vehicle.

The software is pretty easy to use. We will put up the official guide from the hardware manufacturer as well as our own information. I will be writing a self tuning guide with my suggestions to avoid blowing things up.

Let's take a look at the main tuning screen. (Not a Fiat tune in the picture)



First look a the blue and orange line (tape?). The blue line is the stock boost level. Note that the blue line is NOT representative of any specific boost value or even the shape of the actual boost curve, it's just a reference line we will work from.

Next, we will look at the red line.

The red line represents the CHANGE to the stock boost level, so the line does not show the curve, it's displacement from the blue line shows the change to the curve. This is important to understand.

Let's look at the line and all the numbers in the boxes below and see how they relate to each other. Start with the box on the far right. That's "Threshold" Under no circumstances should you ever touch that number unless I personally tell you too. Don't alter "Threshold", no good can come from it in 99% of the situations out there.

Look at the red line and notice it starts to diverge from the blue line at about 2000rpm. That's because because the value in the RPM-Start box below is at 2000rpm. RPM-Start can be thought of as the minimum RPM at which the device will make a change to the boost curve. (we will get to how you set the amount of change later)

Notice at 5000rpm, there is a small DIP in the boost as it comes down a little closer to the stock boost level as represented by the blue line. This point is determined by the RPM-Decrease button. Notice that boost will still be higher than stock, but not as much higher as it was at 4000rpm.

Now at 6300rpm, we have the device shutting off and returning the engine to stock boost levels gradually over a 300rpm range. So by 6600rpm, boost is back to stock values. This happens when the RPM reaches the value set in the RPM-Stop box.

The two boxes on the far left are Set-Start, and Set-Decrease. These are the key numbers to the whole thing. The Set-Start number determines how much of a boost increase you get once RPM is above the RPM-Start value. The Set-Decrease number controls how much boost you have after the RPM-Decrease Value but before the RPM-Stop value.

So that's the gist of how it's used. I'll have a lot more details on this coming very soon, like within a day or two.

In addition to the tuning screen advanced users may wish to monitor live data and made changes as they drive. I don't suggest this, and I don't really like doing it this way myself, but it can be done.



This screen enables you to monitor various things. You can see the temperatures of the CPU and motherboard. I guess if for some reason you want to locate the device somewhere non-standard and are not sure if it's going to be too hot, this will enable you to check it and get peace of mind.

More important are the voltages in and out for the two boost sensors. Here you can see exactly what changes you are making to boost, and watch rpm on that display and see when they are taking place.

In all honestly, I never use this. I prefer to program from the comfort of my office chair and then go out and test, but to each his own...

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Greg,

This looks great, but I did not see anything about how the software communicates with the EDL. Is it Bluetooth, WiFi or some special cable attached to my laptop?

I have placed my order and will putting the software to use as soon as it is delivered and installed.
 

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It attaches with a cable. I like cables. That said, it does have built in blue tooth, but it's not activated. We may be activating it with a software change, but I can't say with certainty that it will happen.

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It attaches with a cable. I like cables. That said, it does have built in blue tooth, but it's not activated. We may be activating it with a software change, but I can't say with certainty that it will happen.

Greg
Does the cable come with the EDL? If not, is it a common cable like USB to USB?
 

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I have placed my order and will putting the software to use as soon as it is delivered and installed.
You might want to drive it around with the maps we made for a month or so before you make any changes. We have been working with this engine a long time, and I think our maps are pretty good.

Does the cable come with the EDL? If not, is it a common cable like USB to USB?
The cable isn't included since I don't think a high percentage of people will be self tuning. We should have the option to get one up on our site soon. Of course if Toby gets the bluetooth working the point is moot anyway.

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Greg,

Thanks for the advice. I plan to put a couple of thousand miles on it, with stock settings, over the next couple of weeks. I'll set a benchmark over that period. Then after I put in the EDL with the Dynamic map, I'll do some comparisons.

Just out of curiosity, have you dynoed the Spider or one of the 500s with the larger turbo, to see what that gives you in HP and torque?

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Greg,

Just out of curiosity, have you dynoed the Spider or one of the 500s with the larger turbo, to see what that gives you in HP and torque?

John.
We are not ready to publish any numbers for our tunes with the bigger 1752 turbo. We haven't put that turbo on the 124 yet either, but it's working really well on the 500.

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The cable isn't included since I don't think a high percentage of people will be self tuning. We should have the option to get one up on our site soon. Of course if Toby gets the bluetooth working the point is moot anyway.

Greg
Still curious about the cable. I ran across a DiabloSport PC Interface cable. Will I need something like that?
 

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It will be on the site soon. I'll try and get you a picture, but I can't do it at the moment because I am overseas.

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Greg, do you have the plug available yet for when youngish to remove the euro + lite box and have it back to stock? If not do you have a tentative date?
 

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That plug is available. Strangely it's not a true bypass plug and has circuitry. It leaves a little bit of tune on the car when used, just a psi or so. I am not sure why Dimsport make it that way. In any case, yes, we have some in stock.

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hmm, kinda odd that it leaves a residual. would have expected it to have circuitry to jump across and complete the circuits that you added to previously. but anyway i popped on the site to get around to finally ordering a euro+lite and i did not see where i can add the plug to my cart? guess i am feeling dense today lol
 

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hmm, kinda odd that it leaves a residual. would have expected it to have circuitry to jump across and complete the circuits that you added to previously. but anyway i popped on the site to get around to finally ordering a euro+lite and i did not see where i can add the plug to my cart? guess i am feeling dense today lol
Typically bypass plugs are just wires that jump various connectors together. I don't know why Dimsport make them this way. It's actually a mini tuner module They are not on our site yet. I do know we are doing some updates to the site in the next day or two. They are 50 bucks and in stock.

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Will there be tuning options for the US version of the new Fiat 124, or do they already exist? If yes, has anybody done it and with what results?
 

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Will there be tuning options for the US version of the new Fiat 124, or do they already exist? If yes, has anybody done it and with what results?
Hi Yosemite,

I'm not sure I understand your question. At this time we have two maps for the 124 you can choose from with Euro+Drive Lite. Both are specifically for the US version.

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Hi Yosemite,

I'm not sure I understand your question. At this time we have two maps for the 124 you can choose from with Euro+Drive Lite. Both are specifically for the US version.

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Is this for the regular 124 or the 124 Abarth? I saw somewhere else you mentioned you were still working on the regular.
 

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i think he is asking of there will be a Euro+Drive tuning system instead of just the lite version? like this,
https://shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/abarth-engine/products/euro-drive-tuning-system-abarth-fiat-500t
https://shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/abarth-engine/products/euro-drive-tuning-system-abarth-fiat-500t

Those are products that are out for the 2012, 2013 and in some cases (500L) 2014 cars. It will be a while before we have a complete product line for the 2017 cars like the 124, but we are working on it.

i am wondering if there is a system like that would it require any modification to any components for the phase 0 or 1 calibrations.
Please understand that your question is asking about a product that doesn't exist yet for the 124, and may not exist for a long time. That said, the likely answer is that Phase 0 would require NO additional modifications. That's the whole point of Phase 0, and it's one of our design principles.

as not all new models on the 500 have this tune choice yet i am assuming it will take a bit until you will be able to do this?
We are working on it, but we have no eta for this product line. It won't be tomorrow, I can tell you that. It may take years.

Greg
 
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