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Folks,

Given our cars are all (presumably) still under warranty, for those of you that have made obvious modifications to your car - and I'm talking induction kits, ECU flashes or piggyback units, exhaust changes etc, what's your approach for servicing? Are you:

  1. Servicing the car yourself
  2. Taking to an independant / specialist shop for servicing on the assumption they don't care about the mods
  3. Taking it to a main dealer with your mods still on the car
  4. Removing your mods before taking it to a main dealer

I haven't done any modding to a car in years and even when I did, the cars I had were long out of warranty. However my mouse has been hovering over the 'buy' button for a Eurocompulsion induction kit and ECU flash for days now.

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Wooley.
 

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If it's for warranty service, my dealer won't care about what I've done unless it directly affected the need for service.

For the most part, all of the regular maintenance service shouldn't matter. I do most of it myself unless it looks like a pain.

That's just my situation. Other's have dealerships that are more restrictive.
 

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I've always typically been in the same boat. If something were to have gone wrong as a result of my modifications, then it would be to deal with it. If it's just going in for regular servicing such as oil changes, etc. they have no issue with any modifications that are done. Other than that, I typically do everything myself until I really need a hoist, but even then, I'll rent a bay from someone.
 

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Hi Wooley;
I had an oil change today and not a word was said about my EC V4 Intake, DV+, and Forge MS Blowoff valve.
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I've always used the dealer for service to maintain warranty and pursue any covered repairs. I don't wait until cars are out of warranty to mod, but I'm prepared to take on some risk. If I have an issue related to a mod, I'm willing to take care of it myself, pay the dealer, or pay an independent. If I add an aftermarket exhaust and an o2 sensor goes out, that's on me.

I've yet to take in my Fiat in for servicing, but am working under the assumption they'll behave in the same reasonable manner as other manufactures. Mazda and Fiat both have an enthusiast following. Mazda never took issue with my mods on 3 previous mx-5's. At the same time, I never go out of my way to draw attention to mods or act is they have cause to give me a rough time about them.

As for a tune, in the unlikely event if you blow an engine for any reason, I think it is reasonable to hope they will be honest about the cause and honor the warranty, but you also need to be prepared to pay out of pocket.
 

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I have an independent shop for basic maintenance. I'd do my own maintenance, but I don't have the space.
 
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Based on the conversations with the local Fiat dealers in my area (I'm lucky enough to be near 4 of them), they expect the Abarth models to be modified and are happy to warranty the cars within reason. Now this is here in Canada but to date, I have never been refused warranty even with a big turbo strapped to a 500.
 
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Based on the conversations with the local Fiat dealers in my area (I'm lucky enough to be near 4 of them), they expect the Abarth models to be modified and are happy to warranty the cars within reason. Now this is here in Canada but to date, I have never been refused warranty even with a big turbo strapped to a 500.
Freakin' A! I'm moving to Canada! :eek:
 

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Freakin' A! I'm moving to Canada! :eek:
Come during winter months then I think you'll go back faster then you came.>:)

I was surprised to hear, that Canadian Border Patrol, are sending back lots of US citizens if they have any criminal record, even re: who they voted for.:nerd:>:)
 

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Come during winter months then I think you'll go back faster then you came.>:)

I was surprised to hear, that Canadian Border Patrol, are sending back lots of US citizens if they have any criminal record, even re: who they voted for.:nerd:>:)
That's why he should move to Vancouver. We had a terrible winter this year. We had a whopping two weeks of snow lol. Usually no more than two days of the stuff here. :p
 
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If you are modded, I'd be inclined to have the car serviced by a sympathetic non-dealer who will work with you should "problems" arise.
 

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Based on the conversations with the local Fiat dealers in my area (I'm lucky enough to be near 4 of them), they expect the Abarth models to be modified and are happy to warranty the cars within reason. Now this is here in Canada but to date, I have never been refused warranty even with a big turbo strapped to a 500.
If you broke ANYTHING in the driveline with "a big turbo" strapped on and tried to claim "warranty" in Australia, they'd laugh you out of the dealership.
 

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If you are modded, I'd be inclined to have the car serviced by a sympathetic non-dealer who will work with you should "problems" arise.
I'm thinking along those lines. There's a couple of independant shops nearby that people rave about and are 'enthusiast' friendly. Plus the actual Fiat dealer is just far enough away to be a PITA. On the other hand, they are also a Maserati, Alfa and Mclaren dealer so there's always plenty of eye candy on show. Just wondering if they'll have shop rates to match...
 

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Most dealerships are pretty reasonable about warranty claims, unless they have a Subaru logo above their main entrance. The horror stories I hear from those places makes me cringe. Use your judgement here.

If you have an intake, an exhaust, and suspension modification, they can't claim your modifications caused a failure in a multiair solenoid, for example. The failure has to be caused by the part installed in order for the dealer to claim the modification caused the failure.

Now, the issue comes in these "gray areas" where you may know more about the engine than mechanics, but it's your word against theirs, and those are where you have to be careful. For example, you lower your car, a CV shaft fails. One would think that the reduced ride height wouldn't have that adverse of an effect, but your dealership may disagree. Another example, you get your car tuned, and a crack in the turbo wastegate housing causes issues. They may blame the defective turbo on the tune even though other cars may be coming in with excessively large cracks in turbo wastegate housings.

Generally speaking, if it costs me $50 or less, and half an hour or less, I'll do the work myself. Taking my car to the dealer is a last resort. I don't want to risk coming back and smelling burned clutch when I pick up my car, having screws or trim fasteners missing, or having oil spilled in the engine bay (a huge peeve of mine). Doing the work myself also allows me to provide a tutorial so others can do their own work once their cars are out of warranty. A thermostat replacement, however, I might leave to the dealer as I don't want to mess with topping off coolant and burping air bubbles from the system (if it's any more complicated than my Cruze is, which is easy).
 

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Come during winter months then I think you'll go back faster then you came.>:)

I was surprised to hear, that Canadian Border Patrol, are sending back lots of US citizens if they have any criminal record, even re: who they voted for.:nerd:>:)
That's why he should move to Vancouver. We had a terrible winter this year. We had a whopping two weeks of snow lol. Usually no more than two days of the stuff here. :p
I couldn't leave here. My lap times at Laguna, Sonoma, Buttonwillow, and Thunderhill are dropping significantly, nearly matching my old times again. Gotta keep up the progress. I'm within a three-hour drive from all of those. More than three to get to Willow Springs, but THAT location is a blast too.
 

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I couldn't leave here. My lap times at Laguna, Sonoma, Buttonwillow, and Thunderhill are dropping significantly, nearly matching my old times again. Gotta keep up the progress. I'm within a three-hour drive from all of those. More than three to get to Willow Springs, but THAT location is a blast too.
That's understandable. I wouldn't want to leave either :p
 
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