[Greg]

So why does the Euro Abarth 124 have 170 horsepower vs. the U.S. version at 164? We will know soon! We have the Euro ECU here and are diagnosing it. We will also know EXACTLY what that sport button/switch does.

We at Eurocompulsion are super serious about advancing the development of this car.

Greg

 

[Kantarserkan]

Great news! We will have more power with Eurocompulsion for Euro spec 140hp Spider!

 

[Hapster]

Awesome. I assumed it was something related to Smog/environmental concerns.

I wonder if the Euro version is any faster.

 

[azzura]

Cool, this is exactly the work I was expecting, to be able to convert my UK Fiat's miserly 140bhp to a more sensible UK Abarth-like 170bhp. I'm happy to live with the softer suspension and higher ride height in the Fiat, and I'm sorry but I just don't like that Monza exhaust sound.

In my Fiat Coupe there are several plug-in chip alternatives which provide different standard maps. At first these were quite expensive (several hundred UK£) but nowadays are more sensibly priced, and there are custom "live map" options too. I expect it will be the same for the new 124 Spider, expensive at first and then cheaper later. It will be interesting to see if the main chip is on a plug-in socket and can simply be replaced, or whether it is soldered in?

Are all the ECU's for the various Fiat/Abarth US/UK versions by Magnetti Marelli?

 

[Greg]

Great news! We will have more power with Eurocompulsion for Euro spec 140hp Spider!

It's a little early to say, but it's possible we will be able to do that.

Greg

 

[Greg]

Awesome. I assumed it was something related to Smog/environmental concerns.

We think it's smog related programming within the ECU, but we don't anything for sure yet.

I wonder if the Euro version is any faster.

It should be very slightly quicker.

Greg

 

[Greg]

Cool, this is exactly the work I was expecting, to be able to convert my UK Fiat's miserly 140bhp to a more sensible UK Abarth-like 170bhp. I'm happy to live with the softer suspension and higher ride height in the Fiat, and I'm sorry but I just don't like that Monza exhaust sound.

In my Fiat Coupe there are several plug-in chip alternatives which provide different standard maps. At first these were quite expensive (several hundred UK£) but nowadays are more sensibly priced, and there are custom "live map" options too. I expect it will be the same for the new 124 Spider, expensive at first and then cheaper later. It will be interesting to see if the main chip is on a plug-in socket and can simply be replaced, or whether it is soldered in?

Are all the ECU's for the various Fiat/Abarth US/UK versions by Magnetti Marelli?

All the ECUs are Magneti Marelli, not just in the 124s, but in all 1.4 MultiAir engines. These ECUs do NOT have replaceable chips so old school "chip tuning" isn't possible. Currently the only option are interceptor boxes like the Euro+Drive Lite system we sell: https://shopeurocompulsion.net/collections/fiat-124/products/euro-drive-lite-tuning-system-fiat-124

Greg

 

[Newod]

Sorry - not that IT literate - I am posting a Youtube link - hope you can make it work.

Forget the lost 6 BHP this Italian spec car has hasn't had it's trim fitted!

Danny

 

[Greg]

Forget the lost 6 BHP this Italian spec car has hasn't had it's trim fitted!

Danny

That's a great video, thanks! That car has an Alfa Romeo 4C engine with about 300hp. The downside is the car costs about $300,000, and no, that's not a typo! We can't get the 1.4 up there yet, but we can get it over 200hp, I think my personal car is easily 220hp, and even with the automatic, it's pretty exciting

Greg

 

[Hapster]

That's a great video, thanks! That car has an Alfa Romeo 4C engine with about 300hp. The downside is the car costs about $300,000, and no, that's not a typo! We can't get the 1.4 up there yet, but we can get it over 200hp, I think my personal car is easily 220hp, and even with the automatic, it's pretty exciting

Greg

You got a 0-60 time on that?

 

[Greg]

You got a 0-60 time on that?

I don't. I suppose I could use Auterra to log so very accurate 0-60 runs. However as atmospheric conditions will be a factor, and I don't have any way to correct the times for that, they won't be directly comparable to anything.

Anyway, if you guys want to see 0-60 times for an automatic car with my Race map and V4 intake, I'll try and do that this coming week.

Also, I can't even find stock 0-60 numbers for an automatic. Can anyone provide a link?


Greg

 

[Hapster]

As far as I know, the time that most people seem to have come up with is around 6.7, however the official time is 6.8.

 

[Greg]

As far as I know, the time that most people seem to have come up with is around 6.7, however the official time is 6.8.

Do you have a link? I can't find a single time for the automatic car.

Greg

 

[Hapster]

In a few reviews, they mention fiat says the 0-60 is 6.7. http://www.caranddriver.com/fiat/124-spider

I couldn't find an official source stating the time.

 

[Greg]

In a few reviews, they mention fiat says the 0-60 is 6.7. http://www.caranddriver.com/fiat/124-spider

I couldn't find an official source stating the time.

Yes, but that's for a stick shift Abarth, not a automatic 124.

Greg

 

[Hapster]

Wikipedia shows https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_124_Spider_(2016) 6.8 for classica. Doesn't state trans. One of the sources is a document from fiat if you scroll down, it might have some more info. Can't open it on my tablet right now.

http://www.fiatpress.com/press/article/117881
U.k classica 0-100kmph is 7.5

 

[vandor]

The US cars had 160 HP, so likely faster than the quoted 7.5 sec for the Euro version.

 

[Stewie]

Should be faster than 7.5 seconds

 

[Hapster]

Should be faster than 7.5 seconds

I don't doubt it. My guess is the 6.8 is the closest to correct.

Manual and automatic are also probably similar or the same.

 

[Greg]

Wikipedia shows https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_124_Spider_(2016) 6.8 for classica. Doesn't state trans. One of the sources is a document from fiat if you scroll down, it might have some more info. Can't open it on my tablet right now.

http://www.fiatpress.com/press/article/117881
U.k classica 0-100kmph is 7.5

That's a good document, but it doesn't have acceleration data.

I am amazed that it seems like not a single magazine did a 0-60 test in an automatic car. Especially since about 99% of the initial cars shipped here were automatics.

Greg