That's what I'm thinking too. It's happening after a WOT pull on the highway. Combustion pressure leaking into the water jacket could be popping the plug. If it's had the water pump already, it's possible it already overheated and warped the head. I've seen 250F+ a few times just from these failures, yet they never pulled the head off to check flatness, since FCA can't do more than the bare minimum.I have a feeling they missed a leak in the head to the block. A freeze plug isn't going to come out without a lot of pressure on the inside of the water jacket.
The problem with a class-action is that one must first answer WHO gets sued. Stellantis does not care because their position would be that THEY did not design or sell you your car. Their response would be that the entity that designed, built and sold the vehicle no longer exists, and concurrent with the sale to Stellantis was an abdication of any responsibility to the owners. This is part and parcel of the corporate merger shell game...I was told by a FIAT mechanic that the engines are built to such narrow tolerances, they cannot retrofit water pumps to the same specs as a robot-controlled assembly process. Of course the robot screwed up. But they didn’t design it for repairs. That’s why in many cases, they are replacing the engine block as if it were a radio. Problem for FIAT Legal, though, is that they are flirting with a class action. It’s way past reputational risk at this point, given the pull-back. Too bad, because the 124 is otherwise a nice car.
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Is this the first time they've replaced the water pump? Tell them to make sure to check the thermostat and gasket. I had to have those other 2 items replaced. The water pump and thermostat at the same time. The gasket was the last item replaced back in May.I'm due at the dealer tomorrow to get my water pump replaced on my 2018. Same symptom that you guys reported. Losing coolant at a rapid pace. This would be the third time in less than two years that my car makes it back to the dealer.
Welcome to the club. It took four visits, but now so far so good. The last visit included replacing the overflow tank and cap.I'm due at the dealer tomorrow to get my water pump replaced on my 2018. Same symptom that you guys reported. Losing coolant at a rapid pace. This would be the third time in less than two years that my car makes it back to the dealer.
Convertible top scraping - They wont do anything about itBummer! What else did you have to go in for? It seems we've all had the water pump before 10k miles, but that seems to fix it in most cases (obviously mine was a big exception).
Its a hate/love relationship with the 124. Get used to it and get an extended warranty 😊Convertible top scraping - They wont do anything about it
Convertible top squeaking - They are doing everything in their power to not replace the top
Driver side window makes a scraping sound when I lower the window - New issue
Rubber molding behind convertible top leaking glue and becoming undone - They clean up the glue and claim there's no problem
Passenger side seatbelt rattling when I don't have a passenger - they actually replaced the whole seatbelt assembly
Hoping that the visits to the dealer would end. I've heard that the dealership avoids doing warrantee repairs, but didnt think it would be at this level. It's making me build resentment towards the car.
Sorry to hear friend. Hopefully they'll be able to fix the issue and it won't be continuous. Issues with coolant leak for the 124 have been linked to the water pump, thermostat and gasket. I was one who got all three issues. I will state since these three items were replaced, coolant level has not changed and no new green snot. I did decide to get an extended warranty for peace of mind because other than that, I enjoy the drive and plan to keep for another 4-5 years. Good luck and don't be afraid to speak to upper management to get a loaner vehicle. Your car could be in their shop for 3-5 days depending on the parts delivery. Yours doesn't look as bad so maybe you can drive yours until they have all the parts ready. Even then, they might have to keep it a night or two.Hello all. I have a 2020 125 classica. 8,000 miles. Did the first oil change today. I am great at fixing vehicles (even have my own lift) but usually let the first couple oil changes go to the dealership where I bought them, figuring they are more expert than me. Dealer was booked out a month and I did not want to drive any further on the old oil as it was pretty black, so I did it myself. Glad I did. Got the pan off and noticed nice snot green on the front of the cast oil pan. Looks like it came out from around where the crankshaft comes out. I had noticed a slight antifreeze smell a while back but checked the level in the bottle and it was fine, and since it was a new car I figured must be my imagination so I ignored it. Had not noticed it since. Nope. Not my imagination. Fortunately the coolant was still in range so it can't be leaking much. It was all dried on the front of the oil pan casting and on the cover plate. Nothing wet. And I have noted nothing on the garage floor. Took some good pictures. Will be off to the dealership Monday. I did run it up on the lift till it heated up and then watched it closely. I cannot see any more leaking out. So hopefully it was just a little leaked upon assembly. I know no way I am that lucky. Water pump will be getting replaced. Hope they have a rental car system at my dealership. Or loaners. This is my only car at this point.
A little disappointed. I traded in a 19 year old VW beetle convertible because it was getting unreliable. Figured a new car would be more reliable. Not impressed at this point.
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I hope the repair goes well. Hopefully it's just the water pump. Sometimes it can also be the thermostat that needs to be repaired.Just a little update. Dropping the car off today at the dealership. They did a pressure test on the cooling system and have decided water pump is leaking. They ordered the needed parts and set up a rental. Supposedly a 1 day project and I will get it back tomorrow. Fortunately it has not been leaking bad so I’ve been able to drive it. Took about 2 weeks to get the parts, which I don’t think is too bad considering the times we are in.