WTB Rear Sway Bar from Classica or Lusso
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I have one but it is the stock Abarth one (better!).
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You mean less stiff?
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The lusso and classica should be more stiff because of the bigger size.
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Lol I don’t think so. Where did you see that they are bigger?
In what world would the performance oriented Abarth model have less-stiff sway bars than the Classica/Lusso?
In fact, stiffer sway bars are part of the bullet points of the Abarth model. I think you should check your information before purchasing.
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I have done my research and it probably has to do with the shocks that are put on the abarth are stiffer than the tokico shock on the classica and lusso models. The softer shocks would require a stiffer roll bar to prevent body roll that would accompany the softer shocks. On the Abarth side fiat probably wanted to keep the tail end from getting to happy with the stiffer shocks so they put on a smaller sway bar.
Still looking for a stock lusso or classica sway bar if anyone has one.
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FYI: “In fact, we appreciate how Abarth seems to have focused more on its tweaked 124’s driving experience than chasing outright performance numbers. (For the record, Abarth claims the 124 Spider can accelerate to 62 mph in 6.8 seconds and reach a top speed of 143 mph.) The car retains the regular 124’s 50-50 front-to-rear weight balance while incorporating stiffer anti-roll bars, “Abarth by Bilstein” dampers for better body control, and aluminum Brembo brake calipers for improved stopping performance.”
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Or: “The stock dampers have been switched out for Bilstein units, and the brakes have been replaced by ones built by Brembo. The anti-roll and tower bars are beefier, for sturdier cornering. It’s got a mechanical limited-slip differential. The tires have a bit more stick to them.”
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Or: “The stock dampers have been switched out for Bilstein units, and the brakes have been replaced by ones built by Brembo. The anti-roll and tower bars are beefier, for sturdier cornering. It’s got a mechanical limited-slip differential. The tires have a bit more stick to them.”
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Yup, Abarth is more stiff. That’s all I was saying lol. Just because it is 1mm larger does not equal more stiffness.
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I understand what you are saying but I would still like to test this for myself. I understand that the 14mm bar could be hollow and the 13mm could be solid but I do not mind experimenting myself to find out. I wanted to try this way because if the 14mm bar is indeed stiffer I would like to see what that feels like before jumping to an aftermarket rear sway bar.
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If I ever get my aftermarket bars installed in my Lusso, you can have my OEM rear bar.
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Just let me know I would be glad to pay for shipping and the bar its self.
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Yup, I'll let you know.
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gtjosh, Did you ever get your hands on the Losso rear bar? It it actually bigger, or softer? Any update on the subject?
I did LOTS of research on anti-swy bars before modding my Abarth suspension. It is really hard to compare aftermarket bars because manufacturers don’t give us much info. They don’t all give us the same type of info, and even if overall thickness is given, the bar being hollow or solid makes a huge difference, the thickness of the walls on hollow bars makes a huge difference, the length of the arms and location of linkage holes makes a huge difference.
You can get some free on-line calculators that will show you how much difference a little 1mm increase can make. It is surprising.
For what it’s worth, concerns rear bars: The Abarth bar is 13mm hollow, The Classica bar is 14mm hollow. The Megan Racing bar is 15mm hollow, Next stiffer is the Cusco bar, which is 14mm solid (I estimated that the solid and thicker Cusco bar could be about 3.5 times stiffer than the hollow stock Abarth bar.) Next thicker are Eibach, Racing Beat, and Roadster Sport, all 16mm solid. The thickest is the Progress bar at 17.5mm solid.
I was making a grand touring, canyon carving, everyday driver. I bought the Megan Racing front and rear bars that I’m very happy with. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for posting Julia! I added details and link to your post, in my Suspension specs. The front sway bar is solid, right? also hollow (I based this on the Progress sway bar description), right?
Hi Ameridan, I got a lot of useful info from your blog this past year, Thanks. Here is the data I collected on the front anti-sway bars. It was not as predictable as data for the rear bars.
Stock Abarth, 23 mm hollow, Stock Classica is the same as the Abarth. Cusco 24 mm hollow. Megan Racing 25.4mm hollow. (This data surprised me. I expected the Megan to be thinner than the Cusco.)
More surprises. Roadster Sport 27mm hollow. Eibach 27mm solid.
Progress and Racing Beat, both 28.5mm hollow
I have a small eXcel spreadsheet on all the bar data, but cannot attach that type file to this message
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I messaged you with my email address
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