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I'm hoping I can get a little assistance as I'm in need of a touch up pen. I've searched all over the car and cannot find any kind of label that has a paint code on it.

My car is listed as having "Portogallo 1974 Grey" paint. In the first post in this thread, the following is listed.

Grigio Argento Pearl | Glacier Silver Metallic | Aluminium Metallic | Portogallo 1974 Grey | Grey Metallic
235/B/RSL 945847 | PSN NSN 348B
PSL
I've found the following listing on ebay, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391809184976. The first three paints are listed as "Argento Grey Met" with three different variants, 235/B, 348/B and PSN. Are any of these the one I need? Or are they all the same?

I'm very confused.

Thanks in advance for any clarification.

Tony.
 

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Introduction

The list below came about after I went through the tortuous process of trying to find touch up paint for my Abarth 124 Spider in Costa Bravia 1972 Red (also known as Rosso Passione). It turns out that finding the correct paint for these cars isn't very easy. In my particular case, the code 'A7V' (which is written on the Mazda branded panel in the car) didn't seem to match any paint code in any database anywhere! Eventually, I managed to find the correct paint and the chip is now fixed. In the process of finding the correct pain I cam across a lot of useful information that I will try and consolidate and share with you all today.

Call for help: I'd like to continue to verify the information I have collected. Feel free to post the code from your car along with the 'branded' colour of your car in the comments below so that we can see if the pattern is consistent around the world.

Why is it so hard to identify the correct paint?

I think the collaborative development and manufacture of the 124 Spider is the cause of the strange paint codes. The process probably went something like this:


  1. Fiat develops the formulas for the 124 Spider paints and gives each formula a Fiat paint code (i.e. 123).
  2. Fiat gives Mazda a copy of those formulas so that Mazda can make the paint and apply it to the 124 Spider. In so doing, Mazda creates its own version of the paint and gives it a Mazda paint code (i.e. ABC).
  3. Mazda paints the car and labels it with the Mazda paint code (i.e. ABC).
  4. Fiat publishes its list of 124 Spider paint formulas but uses the Fiat paint code (i.e. 123).

I think the above makes sense. The paint code on the car (at least in Australia) is on a Mazda label and the format of the code seems to be consistent with published Mazda codes. It also makes sense that Mazda wouldn't include that code in their colour brochures as it doesn't apply to any of their vehicles. I am also confident that the colours are developed by Fiat because some of them are available on other Fiat vehicles. That and Fiat has published brochures that contain very clearly assign particular colour codes to the 124 Spider.

How do I find my paint code?

I have scoured the web for bits and pieces of information and have put together a table that cross references the different names for the same colour, the Fiat codes and the Mazda codes.

Key

Colour name variations
Colour code variations
Vehicle code variations


Codes

Rosso Passione | Passion Red | Costa Bravia 1972 Red | Solid Red
162/C/RKM 945843 | PR2 895A 895B
A7V
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Bianco Gelato | Alpine White | Arctic White | Turini 1975 White | Solid White
163/C/RWE 945844 | PWV NWV 296A
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Bronzo Magnetico | Metallic Bronze Metallic
201/B/RDF 945845 | PUL QUL 399B
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Azzurro Italia Metallic | Pacific | Isola D-Elba 1974 Blue | Azure Metallic
208/B/RBI 945846 | KBP PBP 599
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Grigio Argento Pearl | Glacier Silver Metallic | Aluminium Metallic | Portogallo 1974 Grey | Grey Metallic

235/B/RSL 945847 | PSN NSN 348B
PSL
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Grigio Moda Metallic | Meteor Gray | Dark Gray Metallic
243/B/RA5 945848 | 243B
PA5 | 42A
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Nero Vesuvio Metallic | Black Metallic
244/B/RXC 945849 | 876B
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Bianco Ghiaccio Pearl | Arctic Pearl | Bianco Perla | Crystal White | Tri-Coat White
245/B/RW5 945850 | PWH KWH
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Bronzo Magnetico Met Opaco | Titanium Flash Mica | Bronze Metallic
PUM 400C
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Nero Cinema | Black | Jet Black | San Marino 1972 Black
PX8 601
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Download

Download this list along with colour samples using the link below.

Download my full list of 124 Spider colour names and codes.

Disclaimer

I'm not 100% sure that all this information is correct or whether it will apply to all cars in all markets. However, I plan to update based on your feedback.
I also have a red Abarth with paint color A7V, where did you find the touch up paint? Mazda dealer?
Thanks
 
I just ordered Titanium Flash Color Code 42S from Amazon. That is a Mazda color that is supposed to match my Bronzo Magnetico 2017 Lusso. Perhaps it's just me but I find it confusing trying to find the right touch up paint. My order arrives this week and I'll let the forum know how closely it matches.
 
You can say that again. I think the 162/C/RKM matches the red rosso based on the color chart here, but trying to make sure. I have a minute spot you have to know where it is to see it. The problem is I know where it is, lol.
 
Found this on Amazon. It has a PR1 designation, and the color chart posted here shows a PR2 number along with many others. I wonder if this is the 500 Abarth Red Rosso
Genuine Fiat Fluid 5163760AA Red (Rosso) Touch-Up Paint Pen - 0.5 oz.
 
I find this a little odd, but my car is painted Nero Cinema | Black | Jet Black | San Marino 1972 Black
PX8 601
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Yet the black is clearly a metallic black and not jet black. Do I have an car that was painted incorrectly, labelled incorrectly or is Nero Cinema really a metallic black.
 
Contacted the local Mazda dealer and after a long discussion where VIN number along with the Mazda A7V paint code was exchanged, he indicated that my car VIN number was not yet in their database. I then contacted my FCA dealer, and he was unable to find anything. He then called Chrysler and called me back a while ago and said the paint will not be available until sometime in the second quarter
 
paint me frustrated!

I also have a red Abarth with paint color A7V, where did you find the touch up paint? Mazda dealer?
Thanks
A recent trip to Roger Beasley Mazda in Austin TX was a fail. A fairly competent parts guy told me that without a VIN number I was SOL. Mazda doesn't tie colors, like "Winning Red" to year or trim level. This is the color I'm pretty sure that is the "Rosso" on the 2017 Abarth. I think it is from a 95 Miata.
What a cluster-f! :confused:
best regards
Pete
 
A recent trip to Roger Beasley Mazda in Austin TX was a fail. A fairly competent parts guy told me that without a VIN number I was SOL. Mazda doesn't tie colors, like "Winning Red" to year or trim level. This is the color I'm pretty sure that is the "Rosso" on the 2017 Abarth. I think it is from a 95 Miata.
What a cluster-f! :confused:
best regards
Pete
Good morning Pete, what is the color you are fairly certain that is the 2017 Rosso? Mine is a 2018 but I am pretty sure they are the same
Thanks
Rene
 
Two outfits I have found online. One is called Paintscratch.com. I submitted the A7V paint code and they replied a day later and it is on the web site for the Spider. They call it A7V bright Red. Another company Automotivetouchup. com has most of the codes listed by the OP here. The PR2, 895,895B codes they call Hypnotique Red

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The only place that offered the A7V code was "paint scratch" so I am taking a flyer on a small touch up kit. Will update once here
 
Anyone figure out a color for the Abarth "gun metallic" trim yet? I got the red tow hook/lower lip but they don't look right in red on the red car, so I was thinking of going the S-Design route and doing them to match the windshield/hoops/mirrors.

Someone (somewhere) mentioned that https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00106C9CK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 worked nicely on curb rash, and I ordered a can to try. Did a pretty good job on a small piece of wheel rim, but it's not gonna work for the lower lip.
 
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